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24th June 2010, 22:33
MDS

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

That said, the IRL boys will be chasing the CART lap records, and with less power, I don't see those lap records falling. As for your finding the lap records not being there for series not there now, I am sure someone has a data base of when the IRL did run there, but I think that was in the days of the IRL running the old CART chassis, not this newer formula.

Bear in mind that the track has been altered since then, but I'm pretty sure the record for Loudon was set by Little Al in 1994 at 175.09, which is about 10 miles an hour faster than Milwaukee.

Given that the top speed at Milwaukee last year was 168, its not unreal to believe that we could see speeds at or near the 1990s level, given the increase in the track's banking and other factors.
25th June 2010, 01:09
Hoop-98

Pole in 94 or 95 was 21.42, 70's the year before. The 97 IRL was like a 23.15.
the track has been repaved.

Generally a 2010 flat oval IRL is a second plus quicker than the 97.

rh
25th June 2010, 02:24
nigelred5

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I am too young really to remember that...but I wish Nazerath was still around...I loved that track...

Certainly can't argue that. Attended every CART race held there. oycotted the IRL. The years of 18-19 second laps were friggin awesome! Glad I got to see indycars run at both tracks!!
25th June 2010, 02:27
nigelred5

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Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj

I thought it was still around - the track, that is, minus the facilities. Can anyone from the area provide an update on Nazareth's status? It would be lovely if someone (the Andrettis maybe?) reopened that track.

Last time I was up there was after the grandstands were moved to the glen. I was told they cut large wide trenches across the racing surface and tore up a cople other key parts of the track to render it useless. What a shame. that's effin ISC and hte France Family for you. you can see the carnage on MSN maps. it's depressing
25th June 2010, 03:41
Lee Roy

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Attended every CART race held there. Boycotted the IRL.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

that's effin ISC and hte France Family for you. you can see the carnage on MSN maps. it's depressing

With fan support like yours, what do you expect them to do?
25th June 2010, 05:04
garyshell

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Last time I was up there was after the grandstands were moved to the glen. I was told they cut large wide trenches across the racing surface and tore up a cople other key parts of the track to render it useless. What a shame. that's effin ISC and hte France Family for you. you can see the carnage on MSN maps. it's depressing

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

With fan support like yours, what do you expect them to do?

As if fan support had ANYTHING to do with their monopolistic actions. Please explain how rendering a facility unusable rather than just shuttering it, is about the alleged lack of fan support. Closing it sure, I'll give you that. Making the place unusable, had NOTHING to do with the fans. It was to eliminate any chance of competition, plain and simple.

Gary
25th June 2010, 05:07
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by garyshell

As if fan support had ANYTHING to do with their monopolistic actions. Please explain how rendering a facility unusable rather than just shuttering it, is about the alleged lack of fan support. Closing it sure, I'll give you that. Making the place unusable, had NOTHING to do with the fans. It was to eliminate any chance of competition, plain and simple.

Gary

The track was rendered unusable for liability reasons pure and simple. Look up the term "attractive nuisance"
25th June 2010, 05:17
garyshell

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The track was rendered unusable for liability reasons pure and simple. Look up the term "attractive nuisance"

Uh huh, sure... if you say so. Legal BS. Do you honestly belive that there was no monopolistic intent on the part of ISC? How many other trakcs have they bought and bulldozed?

Gary
25th June 2010, 06:29
call_me_andrew

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Originally Posted by champcarray

Can someone point me to the track records for CART at NHMS? The speedways website only shows records for series currently racing there.

http://www.racing-reference.info/tra...ional_Speedway

Scroll to the bottom for CART and IRL records.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mister

New Hampshire could come in place of Kansas, as it seems as though ISC are not going to renew their IndyCar races (including Watkins Glen)

What is this based on?
25th June 2010, 13:01
Marbles

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Last time I was up there was after the grandstands were moved to the glen. I was told they cut large wide trenches across the racing surface and tore up a cople other key parts of the track to render it useless. What a shame. that's effin ISC and hte France Family for you. you can see the carnage on MSN maps. it's depressing

http://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=40.728....panoramio.all

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