Local Press'es Take on Danica at LBGP

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Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj

Patrick was up against Jon Fogarty, Ryan Dalziel, Andrew Ranger, Ronnie Bremer, Bryan Sellers, Alex Figge and Jonathan Bomarito. Legge was up against Charles Zwolsman, Tonis Kasamets, Antoine Bessette, Andreas Wirth, David Martinez and Al Unser III. Personally, I feel the former is a deeper field than the latter.

Bear in mind, I'm not arguing for or against Danica, I don't really care about where this debate is going because I don't really care about her. My argument only concerns the statement regarding the depth of the 2004 and 2005 Atlantic fields.

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She was in Atlantics against a shallower field. Leave it to me to rely on my ancedotal memory mind you...I forgot about Fogarty. I sure as heck didn't remember Ranger in there.

I do remember a 14 car field at Toronto, and she was 12th or 13th...

I also remember Kat Legge going around Zwolsman ( a better driver than some of the guys in the IRL now) at Edmonton and winning at Long Beach as well. THere is NO footage that dramatic of Patrick doing anything LIKE that..

So while you are very correct to point out the great drivers, I will just point out she didn't actually race them much. Kat Legge beat all who were with her 2 times in her season of Atlantics...and Kat was in over her head in ChampCar.

I just think much of what is done and said about Danica all comes back to the fact she is a "hot" girl, and plays up to the part. She wants to be taken seriously as a race car driver in the same way Anna Kournakova went about telling people how much she wanted to be taken seriously in tennis. Well we know how many tournaments ole Anna actually won.

Ms. Patrick has been a Professional Race Car driver for almost 10 years. Her total wins amount to just................1

Can you name me any other driver with that record and still call them "A Talent"?

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Ms. Patrick has been a Professional Race Car driver for almost 10 years. Her total wins amount to just................1

Can you name me any other driver with that record and still call them "A Talent"?

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To enhance your point, this is actually her 13th professional year. I had previously though this was her 14th but just looked up where she started pro in Europe at 16, She's 28 now. And it isn't about just wins, of which you pointed out she has 1 where we all know the circumstances, look at the podiums she has in that time! A handful, yes, but in 13 seasons!!!!! Most of that is agains watered down competition in the lower ranks and IRL until the merger! Clearly she's not an 'A' talent as you pointed out.

Well, in the other Series, Steve Arpin qualified 4th for the Nationwide race in the #7. It's going to be fascinating in June when Danica goes back to Nationwide. Guess we'll really know then if it's the car, or Danica, huh?

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Originally Posted by beachgirl

Well, in the other Series, Steve Arpin qualified 4th for the Nationwide race in the #7. It's going to be fascinating in June when Danica goes back to Nationwide. Guess we'll really know then if it's the car, or Danica, huh?

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Don't we already really know??? :o

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Originally Posted by TURN3

Don't we already really know??? :o

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I was playing nice. Trying to turn a new leaf. Sorta.

You people are unreal! Bash all you want, but I bet none of you have the balls to even do what Danica does each race!

How soon people forget she finished 5th in the points last season. Actually the best of the rest -- behind the four cars from Ganassi and Penske. This is in a very tight field with many excellent drivers.

Yes this girl has talent and has shown in year in year out. She is having a tough couple of races and now is cannot drive?

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Originally Posted by IMSA

You people are unreal! Bash all you want, but I bet none of you have the balls to even do what Danica does each race!

How soon people forget she finished 5th in the points last season. Actually the best of the rest -- behind the four cars from Ganassi and Penske. This is in a very tight field with many excellent drivers.

Yes this girl has talent and has shown in year in year out. She is having a tough couple of races and now is cannot drive?

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Well, I for one, reference the fact she had NEVER been competitive. This isn't new, those of us on this forum that are realistic and objective have been pointing this out for a few years now. It is people like you that fall into the trap that "oh she finished 5th in points", obviously she is the fifth most amazing driver out there then, right? Wrong, she is a crumb collector. How many passes did she make last year TOTAL!? Hint: you can count them on your hands. As has been said over and over in this thread and numerous others, she does not have the ability to set up a car, does not have the courage to race wheel to wheel where, her teammates can't work with her, nor can her engineers and mechanics, her equipment is as good as it gets (oh wait, AA has regressed since she's been there to offer nothing).

So you are clear, this isn't because she's had a couple of "bad" races. You can count her "good" races on ONE hand through 13 years now. Hopefully this condensed version of why she sucks will allow you to see the light. If not, you and DFan should start a separate section called "DreamWeaver" or something...so I don't have to see fiction in a board which is non-fiction.

shes a ***** who would never have seen the bigs had tony not split sport.....

IMO of course.....YMMV

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Ms. Patrick has been a Professional Race Car driver for almost 10 years. Her total wins amount to just................1

Can you name me any other driver with that record and still call them "A Talent"?

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Alex Tagliani.