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While I could easily believe that up until the Hungarian GP, BMW had no intentions of leaving F1 and that the decision was basically forced upon the team by the board back in Munich, I very much doubt that they would create this much bad publicity intentionally, knowing they where intending to stay in...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
No... I believe BMW's adventure in F1 is now all but resigned to the history books... can't be nice knowing you still have 7 races to attend.
There's no point argueing because we don't know the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper_S
Basically, the F1 team is insolvant and not planning to race next year. It has no money to continue. However, there are outstanding contracts and by the time you have paid off the workforce and creditors, you will be paying more than the assets you put so much faith by.
Surely it is better to do a deal where Sauber can take over the operation, safeguarding the peoples jobs and probably negating your liability in the process?
For some reason, they have not chosen to do this.
Is this maybe a case of daddy coming to the rescue of his son to ensure he has an F1 drive :?:
No delusion coop, simple facts. BMW 700+ people out of work, a team with roots 15+ years old gone from the grid. Honda 450 people still in gainful employment, a team with a 10+ year history saved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper_S
Simples.
as you say we don't know the facts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Believe me, I am, as a BMW fan, gutted at the situation, and I would love for Peter Sauber, if possible to keep the team going... but I also believe there is more to this than has been told and BMW are not as bad as some would like to paint.
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Originally Posted by Sonic
Simple is right... so not HONDA 450 (actually it's 430) people still in gainful employment... more like Brawn GP 270 sacked... the same would still apply to any Sauber rescued team.
Honda had it's 2009 car ready to run... and was contracted to race in 2009 it was FORCED to do what it did...
as I said in a previous post, it is devastating situation, we do not know all the facts and Honda and BMW are not as far a part as some deluded individuals wish us to believe.
1) They doQuote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
2) Already been covered
3) A new entrant perhaps? Someone like Prodrive who can use them for other projects? Toyota?
4) Credit Suisse left already, Intel leaving end of this year, Petronas was year-by-year and free is exchange for race fuel. Suppliers would have been paid for this season so it doesn't matter what happens in 2010.
5) See above....it would cost very little and they had very few sponsors for it to be an issue
I agree its a bad situation for F1 however I'm allowed a POV. And whilst that may be different from yours that does not make me delusional :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper_S
Of course you are entitled to your POV, as am I and it is my POV that you maybe delusional...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
I never said that because it is my POV that it is true however, in fact on this occasion I will accept it isn't ;)
Now you sound like FOTA; trying to keep everyone happy all the time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper_S