Wow that's racist!!!

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Originally Posted by chuck34

left wing racism is "funny"? So you think the Ku Klux Klan is "funny"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator...e_Ku_Klux_Klan

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The KKK is not, and never was a left wing organization. They were a bunch of southern biggots!
Dude you are seriously trippin'!

A quote from the same article:
In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics, but to "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[12] In his latest autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision — a jejune and immature outlook — seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."

Ku Klux Klan (kOO" klŭks klăn) [key], designation mainly given to two distinct secret societies that played a part in American history, although other less important groups have also used the name. The first Ku Klux Klan was an organization that thrived in the South during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War. The second was a nationwide organization that flourished after World War I. Subsequent groups calling themselves the Ku Klux Klan sprang up in much of the South after World War II and in response to civil-rights activity during the 1960s.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-qI...esult&resnum=3

Please read page 49 of link I posted for a more succinct definition in referance to your assertion!

Chuck your cherry picking, and it's not amusing.
Now please explain to me what makes this organization Left wing by todays
definition.

I would have thought Polish would be ethnic, not racist.

I don't have any problem with people disliking other people based upon race or ethnic group. Thats their choice and their loss or gain. To pass laws against it and pretend it doesn't exist is stupid.

I'm caucasion, live in the country, wear cowboy boots and a cowboy hat and don't care for country & western music. Wow, go figure on that one.

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

I would have thought Polish would be ethnic, not racist.

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Although racism does specifically refer to discrimination to individuals based upon racial background, the english language is a fluid thing and it's perfectly acceptable usage to use racism as a term to refer to discrimination against someone who is not part of your ethnic group.

So to that way of thinking a brit, not liking a yank because he is a yank, is racism although both are caucasion? That's twisted.

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Originally Posted by Fred Basset

I moved to a country where i could speak the language well.

The Euros that come to UK in a lot of cases can not speak the language or if they can, its very poor. All part of the reason i had to move away when i would walk up my high st and find that i was the odd one out listening to all the languages that were being spoken. To be able to enjoy the benefits of living in UK, you should be able to speak English well enough to be able to carry out a conversation.. whats wrong with my thinking that???

Its a sad day when someone considers on this forum that i'm the one with the problem when all i want is for people that come to the UK to enjoy the benefits of living there that i just think that they should be able to talk in English to an acceptable level

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Fred, I don't disagree immigrants should learn the language, but news flash for you. English is a hard language to learn as an adult. How many other languages do you speak? When the immigrant is done, he will likely have at least 2 under his belt, while you went to the US where they would think you were cultured with an English accent, even if you are not.

Canadians have always viewed this a little different. We may not like people bringing their language with them and NOT learning English, but we have never knocked people for keeping some part of their culture. We have probably been a little too ok with it since some groups make little effort to take on any Canadian customs or culture (such as it is). That said, their KIDS do, and the massive waves of immigration from India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, China/Hong Kong to the Greater Toronto Area have created a bit of a strain, but as time has gone on, their kids are coming out Canadian. Liking hockey, speaking English, heading down to the local Tim Horton's in the morning for a coffee on the way to work and speaking English.

Immigration follows the same story whether it is this century or the one before. There are growing pains, people don't understand the strange newcomers or their customs, but as generations go along, everyone manages to get along; at least those who don't have any real racist tendencies. I find there are very few real racists, and out of those, most are ones who bend over backwards to say they are NOT that. Denial is a wonderful thing. Some might put Fred in this group...but I wouldn't. Just would call him a little intolerant. AFF is right, everyone has a bit of that in em if they aren't careful.

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Originally Posted by Tazio

The KKK is not, and never was a left wing organization. They were a bunch of southern biggots!
Dude you are seriously trippin'!

A quote from the same article:
In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics, but to "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[12] In his latest autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision — a jejune and immature outlook — seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."

Ku Klux Klan (kOO" klŭks klăn) [key], designation mainly given to two distinct secret societies that played a part in American history, although other less important groups have also used the name. The first Ku Klux Klan was an organization that thrived in the South during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War. The second was a nationwide organization that flourished after World War I. Subsequent groups calling themselves the Ku Klux Klan sprang up in much of the South after World War II and in response to civil-rights activity during the 1960s.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-qI...esult&resnum=3

Please read page 49 of link I posted for a more succinct definition in referance to your assertion!

Chuck your cherry picking, and it's not amusing.
Now please explain to me what makes this organization Left wing by todays
definition.

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Taz, explain where they are a right wing organization? This fallacy that racist groups are "right" wing organizations is equally false. Robert Byrd I suspect is part of a generation who were taught blacks were inferior and all the institutional racism of that era. The US history on race relations is pretty sad really, but if one is to point out which party was the party of keeping slavery and being more in favour of the "Jim Crow" mentality, it is the Democrats. They opposed Lincoln, and in the 30's that hadn't changed much as most blacks were Republican if they had a vote. It wasn't until the 60's that this myth of the Democrats being on side with the black minority all along was created.

As for the KKK, they were scum and their goals were heinous, but in the early part of the last century, a few important people supported them quietly. Byrd I don't believe was a racist with true hatred, but he looked down his nose at black society if he joined the KKK. I tell you this much, the Dem's beat up Storm Thurmond something awful for his "racist" past but they sure look the other way with Byrd....hypocritical? Yup...

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

Then there is Wade91. :D

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He's with Chuck at a Starbucks in Cumberland sitting right under the "lynching tree" :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Tazio

The KKK is not, and never was a left wing organization. They were a bunch of southern biggots!
Dude you are seriously trippin'!

A quote from the same article:
In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics, but to "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[12] In his latest autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision — a jejune and immature outlook — seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."

Ku Klux Klan (kOO" klŭks klăn) [key], designation mainly given to two distinct secret societies that played a part in American history, although other less important groups have also used the name. The first Ku Klux Klan was an organization that thrived in the South during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War. The second was a nationwide organization that flourished after World War I. Subsequent groups calling themselves the Ku Klux Klan sprang up in much of the South after World War II and in response to civil-rights activity during the 1960s.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-qI...esult&resnum=3

Please read page 49 of link I posted for a more succinct definition in referance to your assertion!

Chuck your cherry picking, and it's not amusing.
Now please explain to me what makes this organization Left wing by todays
definition.

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You totally missed my point. The KKK is not "left wing" nor is it "right wing". However, Sen Byrd is a pretty left wing Senator. And he can do all the justifying he wants, but that doesn't change the FACT that he belonged to a racist organization. And don't give me this BS about the KKK being more "political" in nature in the 30's. It is, was, and always will be a racist organization.

People cherry pick all the time, on both sides. If someone is going to cherry pick a right wing racist and make the claim that all Conservatives/Republicans/Right Wingers must be racists, then I'll pick out a Liberal/Democra/Left Winger and ask the question, Why?

Geeze Chuck, Tazio just called you and Wade racists. Sound like a good Huffington Post forum member to you?? Taz...you have to stop watching Keith Olbermann, he is rotting your mind.

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Originally Posted by Tazio

He's with Chuck at a Starbucks in Cumberland sitting right under the "lynching tree" :laugh:

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You sir, are way out of line! Do not even joke about me being racist, or sitting under a "lynching tree". I am NOT a racist and lynchings disgust me to no end. Slavery and the associated Jim Crowe period are the worst parts of the US. I wish they never would have existed, and would do anything to take them back. However, that is not possible so we must move forward, learning from our past mistakes, to make a better future for everyone.

Your attempt at some sort of humor is not appreciated.