Remember any new rules must suit Ford and Citroen.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
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Remember any new rules must suit Ford and Citroen.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
It will indeed be interesting to see what FIA does. But if they bring the 1.6T rule forward to 2011 (which is good IMO) it must be because they are unhappy about the possible competition from IRC. With two interim years (2011 and 2012) running with S2000 cars the WRC will be in direct competition with IRC. I can`t imagine FIA would like that, to have two international (global) championships running to the same rules, and possibly even risk the WRC to lose out in this competition by drawing more manufacturers and especially top independent teams into IRC as this series is less expensive. With Eurosport closely involved in the IRC, and more live TV forthcoming from the IRC-events, this is also a battle that could easily be lost re. the sponsorship market.
With quicker and more spectacular 1.6T cars WRC will keep the position as the major championship, and that must be the goal of the FIA.
You’re right, this issue has more to do with politics than sport!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
From the Monte 2009 media impact, it’s impossible to deny the existence of WRC/IRC rivalry, but FIA could have avoided it with the selection of Eurosport Events for the WRC promotion.
Comparing ISC and EE work of the last years, it’s hard to understand the criterion used by FIA on the WRC promoter choice, especially when EE assured a joined WRC/IRC promotion that surely would benefit rally sport.
Perhaps a strong and competitive WRC it’s not in the interest of FIA and its F1 partners…
The video at the bottom of this page:
http://www.ir7.at/fotostest120509.html
...is quite a compelling argument for S2000.. Ok, we all know it's slower than a World Rally Car but that is a damn site better to watch and listen to than any sodding Focus I have ever seen.
Yes, they have great sound and the slowness I think is only noticeable by the clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I calculated from the results of Argentina the average speed of the winner (Loeb) and the best group N (Al-Attiyah). Loeb’s average speed was 83,76 km/h and Al-Attiyah’s average speed was 76,31 km/h. The difference is only 7,45 km/h.
With a speed of 83,76 km/h on a 100 m view, it take 4,3 sec to pass and with a speed of 76,31 km/h it takes 4,72 sec. The difference is only 0,42 sec, which IMO is not noticeable with the eyes. With higher speed a difference of 7,45 km/h is even less.
Km/h____sec / 100 m_____Difference, sec (Row – fastest)
180_________2,00
170_________2,12_____________0,12
160_________2,25_____________0,25
150_________2,40_____________0,40
140_________2,57_____________0,57
130_________2,77_____________0,77
120_________3,00_____________1,00
110_________3,27_____________1,27
100_________3,60_____________1,60
90__________4,00_____________2,00
80__________4,50_____________2,50
Yoy mean that when you are in a ss you can t see the difference in speed between wrc and N4 car? :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
I agree with OldF, over that distance you probably can't see the difference in actual speed (probably even less on tv). It's all about how agile the car looks, how attacking the driver looks and how the car sounds. That's why it's so important they get the rules right, and if we go the turbo route they must sound like they are actually pushing and not driving to Tesco.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Τοttaly disagree!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
it is obvious that a wrc car passes faster than a pwrc car whatever you are in a u-turn or in a 5th gear corner.I am talking about the speed can understant the human eye.
Or i am a hawk? :p :
You`re not a hawk, dimviii. You`re just like me and many others, who actually like WRC-cars and think they are a damn bit faster and more spectacular than both Gr. N and S2000. There has been a trend on this forum to argue that S2000 is more spectacular and fun to watch than WRC. Now someone tries to convince us that there isn`t actually a visual difference between WRC and Gr. N. Honestly I can`t understand that at all, unless my own eyes deceives me totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
But then again, I`m an old geezer and need glasses for reading newspapers...
i cringe when i see an s2000 hit a hairpin on dry tarmac...