Rumored 2009 IC Schedule

A night race, added to the expense of a temporary course with the expense of lighting, is absolutely insane financially.

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Originally Posted by Rex Monaco

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_line

There is a map in this link that places Florida, Kentucky and Texas into the category of sometimes included as part of the South.

That said, Kentucky was a slave state until after the war. The Confederate States of America also claimed it as their territory, even though it never formally succeded.

But the real test is to tell a Kentuckian that he isn't part of the south. I did that once, and I won't do it again.

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Yeah, I know the line Very well. I live 12 miles south and 19 miles west of it and know the locations of about 6-8 markers and two of the larger stones That are still in place within about a half hour of my house.

The "War of Northern Agression" ain't soon forgot in these parts, even if this isn't 'zactly Dixie ;)

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Ok, fine let's talk geography then.
Gary

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Lets not!

I will say it again.
I am talking Marketing and demographics.
That rumored schedule only has one race in what could be considered the Southern US.

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Originally Posted by champcar72

Road America and Cleveland need to be on that schedule! Then its perfect. That would add 20 races. In 4-8 years i hope that it will be 30 races a year and its a real possibility if NASCAR starts to fall a bit and open wheel makes a comeback.

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Nascar's problem is that they are running 36 weekends of the year, plus one for the All-Star race, and another one for Daytona Speed Weeks. It's too much Nascar, and I don't want Indycar to turn into the same thing. I'm happy with AOWR running 18-22 races a year, maybe 25 tops. But whatever the schedule is, it needs to be spread out to gives teams and fans a break.

Road America and Cleveland need to be on the schedule. I'd rather see Cleveland on there then Mid-Ohio until they get multiple chassis and engines, otherwise there won't be any passing.

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Originally Posted by turbo-engine

ISC, bumpy, ISC, bumpy, ISC, bumpy.......... That's the reason why they don't race there, and never will. I would love to see Indycars on the oval though

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Actually the drivers remarked during testing that Daytona wasn't too bumpy. The bumps are only bad in the ovals turns but thats a moot point since the chicane keeps them from being up to speed in the turns.

That's not a bad calender, but I wonder what happened to that oval race in Mexico we heard so briefly about.

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Originally Posted by indycool

My gosh, anthony, Henderson, Ky., is across the river from Cincinnati, and it's where the Cincinnati airport is located, and even IT'S considered a southern city by most. You can tell by people's way of speech who lives north and south of the Ohio.

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Huh? Henderson Ky? That is much further south. You are thinking of Hebron, Ky, I believe.

But you are spot on with the speech identification. Although over the past few years and the build up of Nothern KY area, the audible indications are lessened a lot. But once you get past the I-275 beltway it reappears quickly.

Gary

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Originally Posted by gofastandwynn

I would like to see them go to Cleveland, thought I think a night race would be a unnecessary cost.

Now, I haven't been to RA since 2002 (I think), but IMO time has passed that facility by in the same way F1 passed Watkins Glen by. There is nothing there as far as spectator amenities goes, and look at all of the problems CC had with the owners/promoters in the past.

I do think that they need to expand to warmer weather locations if you want to lengthen the season.

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Cleveland can be VERY VERY hot. With no trees comes no shade add in hot concrete runways and lakefront humidity and it can be pretty nasty. Hence the one year experiment with a night race. It helped a lot but was mucho expensive!

I have not been to RA in years but understand the amenities are substantially better than they used to be.

Gary

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Ok, fine let's talk geography then. Cincinnati is about 45 miles from Sparta. Lousiville is about 60 miles and Lexington about 68 miles. So tell me about this so called "geographic marketing" that would exclude those two major metropolitan areas and only market to Cincinnati. If you can show me such a marketing plan than I would agree the KY race is not a southern race. But since I happen to know for a fact that the race IS marketed in both Lousiville and Lexington and I also know those are considered Southern cities. I think it would be a real stretch to claim that this is not indeed a southern race.

Gary

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Lets not!

I will say it again.
I am talking Marketing and demographics.

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And so was I. Again, I invite you to show me a marketing plan for the Kentucky Speedway that would not include two major metropolitan SOUTHERN cities that are both within 70 miles of the track.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

That rumored schedule only has one race in what could be considered the Southern US.

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So sayeth the marketing and demographics expert who doesn't consider Lexington and Louisville as Southern cities. (450,000 and 1,380,000 population respectively)


Gary

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

I am talking Marketing and demographics.

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And this talk about "Marketing and Demographics" is why you placed Ft. Worth in the midwest? Do you really think it's close demographically and geographically to these other mid-western races?

Honestly I don't see how this schedule is in any sense a good schedule even this is a transitional period. I mean, it's basically this year's schedule with one addition of Toronto and a little bit of change of race date. I mean, I just don't get why they would leave out Cleveland, Mexico City and a potentially NH. Circuits like Road America might be a long shot but I was expecting more than this, I do hope this isn't really a genuine "leaked" schedule.