Sorry guys......

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Dumb and Dumber?

Gary

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Done. From now on when I refer to Dumb and Dumber it means Reed and Goodyear.

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Originally Posted by nanders

You know, how that race played out was hardly any different then the Aus F1 race. 3 cautions and cars driving around with only a few passes and teams working pit strategies to pick up a spot. Honestly, I cannot believe you can perceive them much differently except one is on an oval and the other a road course. I think you are prejudiced to one type of racing. If that's true, why are you watching in the first place? Or maybe you are a disgruntled crappy that has yet to adjust to the ICS.

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Agreed. You would think road racing fans would've liked that race more than a typical oval race considering it was basically a road course race with all left turns.

Reminded me of an F1 race too. There was very little, if any, pack racing. Few cautions meant the cars were very spread out with only a few cars having a chance to win. Slower traffic and pit stops were the important factors in deciding the race.

The fanatics need to get their stories straight. First they don't like oval racing because it's side-by-side the whole time and flat out, yet they see Michigan as a good oval race even though it's flat out pack racing? I don't get it. Homestead was NOT pack racing and was NOT flat out, so why didn't the fanatics like it?

Take off the CC goggles and actually watch the racing, people.

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Originally Posted by Hoop-98

The low downforce setup was loose, but loose is fast if you can hang on.

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This brings a question to mind. I heard that during one of the broadcasts also. If a loose car is fast, wouldn't that lend to drivers who have experience being able to go well in these cars. Specifically sprint car drivers. If that is the case why are there those who claim these drivers(sprint car drivers) find it hard to adjust to rear engined open wheelers.


I know this might derail the topic a little, but it looks like its headed to the dumps anyways. Anybody let me know if I should start a new thread for this.

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Originally Posted by downtowndeco

Sorry. If this would have been a CCWS or CART race I feel you'd be proclaimming it was the best oval race ever.

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Not true for me....

I remember the CART days at Michigan where lead changes were exchanged between many of the drivers.

I don't know, maybe it was the commentary. The lack of excitement.

I'm not sure, it just wasn't it for me dog....

:D

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Originally Posted by garyshell

I enjoyed the race. First oval I have seen for a few years. But the TV coverage stunk. Where was the driver to pit radio coverage? I think I heard ONE segment all night. I miss Jan Beekus in the pits. Where was the technical descriptions of what was going on? Scott Goodyear is like listening to paint dry and his partner, whatever the ***** his name is, was not much better.

It looked to me like the ex-OWRS guys had a bit to much downforce dialed in. But I understand the need to keep your only car in one piece so that you have something to run in St. Pete.

It was nice to hear Dixon lifting for the corners! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I would have like to have heard more incar audio from the others.

But with all that, it was a REAL treat to see 25 cars on track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And above all, it was just damn nice to be racing once again.

Gary

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Good points Gary!

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Originally Posted by jimispeed

Not true for me....

I remember the CART days at Michigan where lead changes were exchanged between many of the drivers.

I don't know, maybe it was the commentary. The lack of excitement.

I'm not sure, it just wasn't it for me dog....

:D

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Homestead-Miami isn't Michigan. The same way that Bristol isn't Daytona.

I'm sure it was the commentary. It's yawn inducing!

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Homestead-Miami isn't Michigan. The same way that Bristol isn't Daytona.

I'm sure it was the commentary. It's yawn inducing!

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And we're not looking a full mature series yet. The teams had a month to get ready after spending the entire off season (and lots of their own money) under Forsythe's illusion that there was going to be a Champ Car season. Look, 2008 (the first few months at least) is a real season for the existing teams and a test session with prize money for the transition teams. We need the teams to get ready, we need the foreign road racers to adapt, and that doesn't happen overnight.

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Originally Posted by BenRoethig

And we're not looking a full mature series yet. The teams had a month to get ready after spending the entire off season (and lots of their own money) under Forsythe's illusion that there was going to be a Champ Car season. Look, 2008 (the first few months at least) is a real season for the existing teams and a test session with prize money for the transition teams. We need the teams to get ready, we need the foreign road racers to adapt, and that doesn't happen overnight.

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Yep. Also as the season progresses there should be more cars for the ex-CCWS teams so the drivers can be a bit less tentative about driving on the ovals. Hence more competitive.

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Originally Posted by acescribe

Id second all that. What is worse is that I dont believe the bumbling duo Gary Lee and Larry Rice are actually ever at the track, except from perhaps Indy. They are just looking at the same pictures on the screen that we seem and timing and scoring on the computer. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone... Still at least they didnt get to say "hi to Tomas Sheckter's mom on Cape Town South Africa" this time. And quite why Sky seem to think they HAVE to have a studio panel for the Indycars AND Nascar I dont know.

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I have to agree that the international commentators are just boring! I dont have any problems with them going back to the studio now and again, but please do something about the commentary! Bring back at least Jeremy Shaw. Not too sure how easy it will be to get Hinch in the commentary box now though.

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Originally Posted by jwhite9185

I have to agree that the international commentators are just boring! I dont have any problems with them going back to the studio now and again, but please do something about the commentary! Bring back at least Jeremy Shaw. Not too sure how easy it will be to get Hinch in the commentary box now though.

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They need to do something as these commentators are very poor and say some really dumb things. Hinch, yes please. I like the studio bit as the UK guys at least say something of interest about the race, Championship, teams etc.