Veloster anyone.... there will be a new 1.6ltr Turbo at the Geneva show! :D Even though I don't like the car...
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Veloster anyone.... there will be a new 1.6ltr Turbo at the Geneva show! :D Even though I don't like the car...
Sordo's car is the only Mini which will compete with that modifications on the Rally of Portugal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Quite logical since those upgrades are from Prodrive, and only sordo has a a prodrive prepared car....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
U forget Sandell..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
customer spec...Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
It was planned that AA would participate on his home rally with all those modifications. Motorsport Italia/Armindo's sponsors or whatever saved the team this year. Many things were said to the portuguese driver by Prodrive, most of them untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
AA ?
you refer to the battery type?
American Airlines, for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Nope. Anonymous Alcoholics. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
i see Campbell Ray the Team manager has left, replaced by Paul Howarth...
Oh no...the poor tourists of nothingness do not get the upgraded parts...what a pity...
Is Kris still a test driver with Prodrive ?
prodrive
Offcourse he's still under contract there..
I wonder what will Kris buy for David Richards this christmas?
A thing so David can shove it in his ...
Should have lot of those by now,,,Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Why is prodrive at fault for not having money for a second car ???
Lessons in Portuguese? I really hope those fizzels don't get the new car.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Because they failed in getting sponsors and funding for their contracted driversQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
they weren't helped by BMW or the FIA - perhaps you would rather they just took the Stobart position and put in Matt Wilson; or one of the multiple others that ppl complain about for getting seats in official entries.........cause the options seem to be to have them in full time or run 1 car and have the potential for the talented driver to enter fewer events?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
We all don't know what the agreements were.. Or someone must be their when Richards and BMW people got together to agree with eachother?
Francisco Name is running in Rally mexico with a MINI JWC WRC car. Does anybody know if that's run/prepared by Prodrive or by Motorsport Italia?
He's not starting..
Btw Campbell is already resigning from his position as teammanager..
they did not not have a sposnosor to begin with....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
and besides why is a privates bussines for developing cars job to find sponsors...
Because that what the contract that they, of their own free will, signed with BMW says was their job....Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You know, standard business that happens the world over. With basically every motorsport team in the entire world.
their job was to find sponsors ??? i thought they were a motorsport company preparing cars for competition....Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
ususally when a manufacturer signs with a team they provide it with the money as well to run...
If Richards went trough with his F1 team he would have to search for sponsors there too..
You think McLaren get gifted all their money and sponsors from Mercedes Benz? What about WIlliams?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Name a motorsport team that wouldn't have their own sponsorship team to help pay the bills? C'mon, just one.
I thought we all knew that BMW backed the first year, then it was up to Prodrive to find sponsors from then onwards. This they couldn't do, despite good results and pretty good media coverage on BBC News several times - so wanted more £$£$£ from BMW - who told them were to go.
i am not saying that....i am saying why is it prodrives duty to find sponsors and not BMWs ??? and why BMW gave the money in the first place if they weren't committed that much ?? for example i doubt they will quit DTM if they do not find sponsor after their first year...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Richards must be very confident to them with saying he would find sponsors. And BMW don't care so much about their 2nd range brand Mini in WRC? Nobody probably knows that on here..
I would agree. As well as contract details etc a lot more happened than we'll ever know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
I think what is currently in the public domain is only half the story. Whatever, the end result is so disappointing.
First time in 10years i agree 100% with NOT, it's MINI (or BMW) that you can blame with the whole situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
They had the perfect opportunity to fight against Ford&Citroën with Sordo and Meeke and even with good paid drivers. Last year it was already clear the car build by Prodrive was very good, so Prodrive did their job but without money from the manufacturer you can't get the results or invest what you want.
You must ask yourself: Is it MINI or Prodrive that benefit's more from the publicity... than you will understand how the world is made...
All i am saying is the biggest dissapointment from the whole Mini fiasco i think goes to BMW... From the moment they choose to get involved in the WRC they should have thought that money issues could arise and they should be prepared to support Prodrive for at least another year....Lets not forget that this was just the FIRST year of mini with a full program...
What BMW expect ?? that prodrive would find sponsorship to support 2 payed drivers for a full season ?? plus development ?? if they thought that was possible then they are a bunch of amateurs and should stick in making 4 door cages for trophy wives and their boyfriends...motorsport is not their thing...
Did anyone tried to think a little bit and question if BMW really wanted enter on the WRC?!?
Did you ever imagne that someone put BMW on the field promissing a good business (a WRC season by 70% of the cost)?
Wouldn't had you accepted?
The only thing Richards wants is the money. And he has it a lot but he wants more. The problem is that BMW doesn't smoke nonsense. One more thing about Meeke: guy needs 5 full seasons before wins should come and possible championship.
Jack De Keijzer said that's Bullcrap.. WRC TEAM MINI PORTUGAL will drive with it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
5 full seasons?? On what do you base this insightful factQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis