Which rally should they add to the WRC-calendar?

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Originally Posted by Lisa Statham

Agreed. I want more 'world' in the world championship.

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With respect, not much of the 'world' that isn't already covered by WRC has sufficient resource (trained marshals) and experience in what it takes to run an international rally, safely. Shoe-horning a WRC round into China (for example) is an invitation for a debacle. Hell, some existing, traditional long-standing rounds have less than acceptable standards. Fine while it all works but watch the brown stuff fly if there were to be a serious incident.

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Originally Posted by NxOxT

it just states the organiser point of view.... and with no surprise it blames everyone else apart from the Greeks.... same old story.

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I will tell you a dream that I had last night: A major manufacturer from some European country gets a driver to drive with full program, with a sponsorship from a petroleum company that is also the sponsor of a rally in the 2014 program that happens to take place in the country of this driver. Anyway, it was just a dream, so I could not see the names. We 'll talk again at the end of the year. Maybe then I will have another dream in which I will be able to see the names.

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

Also just being curios how many high crashing-chance spots did you find in Germany and many crashes actually have you seen?

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In Germany we did recce of the following stages on thursday, before the event: Sauertal, Mittelmosel, Veldenz and Dhrontal. About the "crashing places" I found, on Sauertal nothing. On Mittelmosel we stopped to have a look at where Ogier finally crashed (quite interesting, completely blind with very sharp crest and you didn't see how the corner ended at all), but 500m later we found the fast right corner with the huge bump from water draining, and decided to go there in stead, as it would be interesting on how drivers approach it and how the car/driver responds to the bump. We've seen the crash of Campedelli there, some other had big moments, few other crashed but when we weren't there anymore. On Dhrontal we stopped at the corner where Neuville crashed, but to be honest I didn't expect such an epic crash would happen there, just thought it would be a nice place (blind left don't cut into right big cut into blind left). Just left from it, if you walked some 50m, there was a gravel road. We tried all access roads to that gravel road, but all were undriveable... It varies, but from stage to stage, you can find sometimes only one, sometimes dozens of tricky places. In the last 6 WRC events I've always seen a crash, although I'm never really looking after it. Last year in France we found the corner where Solberg would crash tricky, and went there. Same for the place where Loeb went off in Sardinia (drivers were in a good rythm with corner after corner on a very wide flat gravel road, that left one was also very fast but the road became only half as wide, several group N drivers had close calls there).
I'm not searching for real crashing-places, but for another reason these places attract me, because on these places you can see the biggest difference between the good drivers, the great drivers, top drivers, and the sick dogs (to put it in NOT's words).

But back on topic (as far as you can call this thing one topic). :)

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

I'm not searching for real crashing-places, but for another reason these places attract me, because on these places you can see the biggest difference between the good drivers, the great drivers, top drivers, and the sick dogs (to put it in NOT's words). :)

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Originally Posted by scn

I will tell you a dream that I had last night: A major manufacturer from some European country gets a driver to drive with full program, with a sponsorship from a petroleum company that is also the sponsor of a rally in the 2014 program that happens to take place in the country of this driver. Anyway, it was just a dream, so I could not see the names. We 'll talk again at the end of the year. Maybe then I will have another dream in which I will be able to see the names.

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the same manufacturer uses (almost) the same scheme this year... but it has not affected the calendar. There were 14 events to drop in favour of poland (which by the way is an amazing rally) Greece was the weakest link... simple as that.

There were always dark alliances and sponsorship driven decisions in every motorsport, it is not something new... the goal is to avoid being the weakest link and Acropolis rally was the weakest link from every point of view you look at it.

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

In Germany we did recce of the following stages on thursday, before the event: Sauertal, Mittelmosel, Veldenz and Dhrontal. About the "crashing places" I found, on Sauertal nothing. On Mittelmosel we stopped to have a look at where Ogier finally crashed (quite interesting, completely blind with very sharp crest and you didn't see how the corner ended at all), but 500m later we found the fast right corner with the huge bump from water draining, and decided to go there in stead, as it would be interesting on how drivers approach it and how the car/driver responds to the bump. We've seen the crash of Campedelli there, some other had big moments, few other crashed but when we weren't there anymore. On Dhrontal we stopped at the corner where Neuville crashed, but to be honest I didn't expect such an epic crash would happen there, just thought it would be a nice place (blind left don't cut into right big cut into blind left). Just left from it, if you walked some 50m, there was a gravel road. We tried all access roads to that gravel road, but all were undriveable... It varies, but from stage to stage, you can find sometimes only one, sometimes dozens of tricky places. In the last 6 WRC events I've always seen a crash, although I'm never really looking after it. Last year in France we found the corner where Solberg would crash tricky, and went there. Same for the place where Loeb went off in Sardinia (drivers were in a good rythm with corner after corner on a very wide flat gravel road, that left one was also very fast but the road became only half as wide, several group N drivers had close calls there).
I'm not searching for real crashing-places, but for another reason these places attract me, because on these places you can see the biggest difference between the good drivers, the great drivers, top drivers, and the sick dogs (to put it in NOT's words).

But back on topic (as far as you can call this thing one topic). :)

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do not try to argue with people who go to rallies to watch hairpins and handbrake turns... they are the same who save Ken Blocks videos in their hard drives...you are better than that.

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Originally Posted by NxOxT

Acropolis rally was the weakest link from every point of view you look at it.

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Please list these "points of view".

I will not... i do not trust Greeks.

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Originally Posted by NxOxT

I will not... i do not trust Greeks.

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Thank you for informing me about your feelings.
So the discussion ends with the general statement "every point of view".

since this is a thread of which rally should be added to the calendar, my thoughts were to Rally Ireland, it was great back in 2007 & 2009, so why is it not back?