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22nd February 2010, 12:47
f1indiablog

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22nd February 2010, 13:50
wedge

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

I said exactly what I meant. Again:
Alonso has driven rubbish since 2007, the cars have moved on since then too as well as Fernando being a rather emotional fellow.

What about the last few races of 2008 when he beat Kubica to best of the rest. Winning Fuji that year was pure genius - he changed the strategy mid-race taking into account of the BMW graining problems on long stints.

As a so called fan, you seem to acknowledge success when a driver has the best car.
22nd February 2010, 14:09
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by wedge

What about the last few races of 2008 when he beat Kubica to best of the rest. Winning Fuji that year was pure genius - he changed the strategy mid-race taking into account of the BMW graining problems on long stints.

As a so called fan, you seem to acknowledge success when a driver has the best car.

So, do we think Alonso has more involvement in strategy than he let on in the Crashgate scandal?
22nd February 2010, 14:31
DazzlaF1

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Originally Posted by f1indiablog

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22nd February 2010, 14:53
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by henners88

Thats certainly interesting. He either has a say in his own strategy or he is completely in the dark over how his strategy is managed. Unless of course he only contributes in certain races. Is that a possibilty? :)

Aha, yes - only certain races....

Those held on a Sunday only...... ;)
22nd February 2010, 15:53
Dave B

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

So, do we think Alonso has more involvement in strategy than he let on in the Crashgate scandal?

My personal opinion is that he must have known. No driver at his level leaves these things entirely to the team and hops into the car without knowing the intended strategy. Not for nothing did he acquire the soubriquet "Teflonso" round these parts.
22nd February 2010, 16:17
wedge

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

So, do we think Alonso has more involvement in strategy than he let on in the Crashgate scandal?

Probably, judging by previous from. I wouldn't be surprised but I think he would've taken it as pinch of salt.

He and Schumi have shown their ugly side in WDC situations. I don't think Schumi stooped low just to win a couple of races in a year. In that situation here's nothing to gain from it if they cheated and (hoped to) get away with it compared to winning WDC.
23rd February 2010, 00:11
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Look, I'm with you on not liking or supporting Alonso, but you have to admit that the chap knows a thing or two about Formula One cars! If he says the Ferrari is quick then I'm inclined to take him at his word rather than assume that I know better.

I hope he's wrong, naturally... :p

Let me try again:
It has to be the best car because technology has moved on since 2006, after the F60 disaster, Ferrari began work on this car early and given that it is year two of the current regs the probability they would get it right is high, he has not sat in a good car since 2007 - and is not about to compliment a Mclaren - instead he celebrates the car and the team.

This whole argument did not revolve around Alonso's view of the F10 but that it was the car to dominate in 2010.

At this stage no team can be judged that way - and given that ALL the teams are following the way of Red Bull, if any team begins with the probability of dominating it will certainly be Mateschitz's pride and joy.

Alonso is an emotionalistic sort of person and it did him in at Mclaren. If anything, should Massa have the audacity to beat Alonso, he willself-destruct at Ferrari too.

Has Alonso matured enough?

The only team principal able to direct the Alonso energy is his good friend Flavio. Fernando has moral courage - he was the only person in F1 to not turn his back on the Italian.

I think Alonso is an intriguing mix. He is a brilliant driver - in my view the most complete in F1 today. If he can get the Ferrari to work to his satisfaction then HE is going to be the difference, not the car.

Which is why he is my pick for winning the Australian Grand Prix [another thread]
23rd February 2010, 00:25
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

So, do we think Alonso has more involvement in strategy than he let on in the Crashgate scandal?

And so what if he did know?

The FIA was not a court in the legal sense - the power of subpoena. It was not at all in his interest to undermine the team and definitely as he showed, he is not one to be disloyal to a good close friend like Briatore.

His actions at Mclaren demonstrate the difference - Mclaren ended up with a $100 million fine and Fernando wrecked his position there. Its known as the Dennis factor.

I could not imagine Jenson leaving Brawn for Mclaren had Dennis still been on pit wall.
23rd February 2010, 00:34
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by wedge

Probably, judging by previous from. I wouldn't be surprised but I think he would've taken it as pinch of salt.

He and Schumi have shown their ugly side in WDC situations. I don't think Schumi stooped low just to win a couple of races in a year. In that situation here's nothing to gain from it if they cheated and (hoped to) get away with it compared to winning WDC.

Alonso never deliberately crashed into fellow drivers as did Schumacher - to have the disgrace of being thrown out of a championship.

Schumacher recently said that he regretted what he did - I think it is unlikely to recur - well we hope so!

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