Singapore 2008: Briatore and Symmonds resign

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Originally Posted by ioan

Renault sack both Briatore and Symonds in order to save face, that's the 3rd option.

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It would be interesting whether Renault would turn up in Singapore. I can see certain parties being arrested on arrival and the cars impounded by the police.

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Originally Posted by tec4

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In the stewards' report about that interview, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, Symonds confirms that the race-day meeting between himself, Briatore and Piquet did take place.
The stewards reports added: "Mr. Symonds accepted that he had discussed with NPJ (Piquet) the possibility of a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, although he said the suggestion was raised by NPJ."
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ONLY in F1 does the above admission deserve immunity -- yet another sad day for corporate F1's "ANYTHING for MONEY" policy -- and we of course believe that it is ONLY Renault that SHOULD make such SAD admissions --blame the other guy to make it sound better? better? regardless of who gets blamed for raising such extremely SAD racing attitudes.

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Briatore, however, has claimed the meeting didn't happen at all, with Jr suggesting the crash or otherwise.

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Jr says the meeting happened, and PS and FB put the idea to him.
PS says the meeting happened, and Jr put the idea to them
FB claims the whole idea is ridiculous and he had nothing to do with it.

None of those accounts is quite like the other, but one sticks out more clearly than the other two - and, even with PS' story, he and Flav automatically become accessories. And PS' interviews in the "Fit of PK" pdf a page or two back strongly, strongly suggest he was shielding Flav.

Ergo, they have a choice - nail PS to the wall, but have the case against Flav go down for lack of evidence, or make PS an offer he can't refuse...

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Originally Posted by Somebody

Ergo, they have a choice - nail PS to the wall, but have the case against Flav go down for lack of evidence, or make PS an offer he can't refuse...

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This would make PS a prime candidate for a chained Harry Houdini under water disappearing act. :p :

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

That assumes Briatore initiated this. Perhaps he did, who knows :crazy: Offering immunity to two of the other principal participants in the alleged "race-fix" suggests publicly that the FIA think he did, and yet the WMSC hasn't met yet. That, IMHO, is the wrong way to go about things regardless of who is (or isn't!) involved.

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I agree, especially since, when all the evidence from Renault's side comes out, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that Symonds could still appear decidedly guilty, yet he would be getting off scot-free (apart from his inevitable lack of future F1 employment, of course). That would be an unsatisfactory outcome for all.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

This issue has been mishandled from the start and ought to have be declared sub-judice and the investigation could have proceeded that way.

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Why? I don't see any grounds for keeping this out of the public domain. What should never have emerged are the remarks made by Briatore about Piquet's private life, which were totally unnecessary whatever the circumstances.

James Allen's take on the issue of immunity:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...s-of-immunity/

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

James Allen's take on the issue of immunity:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...s-of-immunity/

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Great article...

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Originally Posted by henners88

Renault will turn up in Singapore because the police have no rights to interfere with an FIA investigation unless the FIA ask for assistance. This may have been an example of cheating within a sport with a governing body, so if the police were to wade in a take action, then the FIA would be obsolete in their presence. It works in the same way that Raikkonen's speeding fine/penalty at Monza was not an issue for the police. This is why F1 has a governing body, and the only way police have an automatic right to be involved, is if a death has occured at a race track.... :)

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Thanks for the info...

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Why? I don't see any grounds for keeping this out of the public domain. What should never have emerged are the remarks made by Briatore about Piquet's private life, which were totally unnecessary whatever the circumstances.

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Where is the "Gay Pride" Piquet should be joyous this information came out! Oh Flavio you "Brute"

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Originally Posted by henners88

Renault will turn up in Singapore because the police have no rights to interfere with an FIA investigation unless the FIA ask for assistance. This may have been an example of cheating within a sport with a governing body, so if the police were to wade in a take action, then the FIA would be obsolete in their presence. It works in the same way that Raikkonen's speeding fine/penalty at Monza was not an issue for the police. This is why F1 has a governing body, and the only way police have an automatic right to be involved, is if a death has occured at a race track.... :)

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You've got it the wrong way around. Any Singaporean investigation would take priority over an FIA one