Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

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22nd January 2012, 13:02
SubaruNorway

Some are suggesting PG's fuel fire was due to FIA having made a fuel test earlier...?
22nd January 2012, 13:07
bassist

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Originally Posted by PLuto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0n89TQz_sY

Lovely Video!
22nd January 2012, 13:20
pucky54

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Originally Posted by Mitch555

PG’s engine failure again casts doubt on whether the cars are reliable.

Which engine failure are you talking about?
22nd January 2012, 13:32
dimviii

found this video at autosport.cz.Who is this? :eek:
Monte Carlo 2012 ES6 ES9 WRC/S2000 - YouTube

edit Tanak?
22nd January 2012, 13:37
tolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

found this video at autosport.cz.Who is this? :eek:
Monte Carlo 2012 ES6 ES9 WRC/S2000 - YouTube

edit Tanak?

Yes, Tanak.
22nd January 2012, 14:14
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertS

If anything is boring, that is the poor tarmac-performance of the current Finnish 'top drivers' in WRC.
After so many years in WRC(8-10?) it is unacceptable...

Here is the time to give chance for other talents in works' cars, and forget the 'gravel-boys' ;)

Wasn´t it a couple of tarmac-boys in WRC cars in this Monte? And did they beat the gravel-boys? Generally not.
22nd January 2012, 14:30
RobertS

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Wasn´t it a couple of tarmac-boys in WRC cars in this Monte?

???

I am talikng about the factory-drivers, who spent long-long years in factory-seats as no. 1-2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

And did they beat the gravel-boys? Generally not.

On my list Sordo is a tarmac-expert, he is there, where he is >

eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Monte Carlo 2012
22nd January 2012, 14:37
N.O.T

Results in Monte and Sweden and Finland cannot be taken seriously... both are unique events, they have far bigger prestige from the rest but are not indicative of the performance of the drivers or the cars.
22nd January 2012, 14:40
logic

I think Mikko is the man to watch this season
22nd January 2012, 14:56
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by logic

I think Mikko is the man to watch this season

No...for many reasons.
22nd January 2012, 14:59
Zico

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Originally Posted by Mitch555

Francois Delecour[/i]
The old master still has it. Amazing drive from someone out of a WRC drive for 10 years. If he had more seat time, he’d still be a force in the championship. A dew 2nd fastest stage times to his name is great when you consider he would have beaten most of the Loeb, Sordo, Solberg and Hirvonen quartet. Hopefully finds the funds to do at least the tarmac rounds, though I’m doubtful it will happen.

I agree 100% with pretty much everything else you said but you believe Delecour would still be a force in the championship ? I dont think so.
Francois did quite well, but as a tarmac specialist, driving a decent car and competing in his own back yard (local knowledge)... I actually expected a bit more from him. In saying that I suppose it could highlight the difference beween his and the Factory cars?
22nd January 2012, 15:00
tfp

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

No tpf: RobertS is refering to Tommi Mäkinen.

Of course :cool:
He did have a very good car though, I can remember Mcrae saying - "My grandma could win this rally in that car"
:laugh:
22nd January 2012, 15:01
tfp

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

No...for many reasons.

Team orders?
22nd January 2012, 15:07
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

Team orders?

is one of them...
22nd January 2012, 15:31
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zico

I agree 100% with pretty much everything else you said but you believe Delecour would still be a force in the championship ? I dont think so.
Francois did quite well, but as a tarmac specialist, driving a decent car and competing in his own back yard (local knowledge)... I actually expected a bit more from him. In saying that I suppose it could highlight the difference beween his and the Factory cars?

Agree. Delecour did what Kankkunen did in Finland 2010. And yet we couldn´t think of Kankkunnen as a major threat in WRC. Neither Delecour.

But it would be great if they would.
22nd January 2012, 15:34
MikeD

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Do you really compare Hirvonen with Latvala on tarmac? Latvala is way faster than Hirvonen.

Yes, Latvala is faster but that's because Hirvonen is really bad on tarmac which doesn't make JML especially good. JML is still extremely crash-prone and you could hear from the interview with him that he was mentally shaken. He now has to win in Sweden or at least beat Loeb and PSolberg to get he title fight back on track. If he crashes again it's already game over.
22nd January 2012, 15:38
tfp

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Originally Posted by MikeD

Yes, Latvala is faster but that's because Hirvonen is really bad on tarmac which doesn't make JML especially good. JML is still extremely crash-prone and you could hear from the interview with him that he was mentally shaken. He now has to win in Sweden or at least beat Loeb and PSolberg to get he title fight back on track. If he crashes again it's already game over.

My thoughts exactly, its unlike loeb to crash more than once in a season (Last year was very rare) Now Jari Matti must go the rest of the year without a crash...Unlikely I admit, but stranger things have hapenned!
22nd January 2012, 15:59
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

Of course :cool:
He did have a very good car though, I can remember Mcrae saying - "My grandma could win this rally in that car"
:laugh:

lol
22nd January 2012, 16:07
tolis

Congratulations Seb!

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...51356205_n.jpg
22nd January 2012, 16:07
dimviii

Solberg punished for speeding during rally - Yahoo! Eurosport
22nd January 2012, 16:27
Langdale Forest

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

is one of them...

How can someone be so pessamistic?

Hirvonen set some good times in Monte-Carlo (not his faveorie rally), and he is expected to be one of the favorites for the win in Sweden.
22nd January 2012, 16:42
Fly

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Some are suggesting PG's fuel fire was due to FIA having made a fuel test earlier...?

I read that too but nothing official (yet).
22nd January 2012, 16:43
Fast Eddie WRC

Very disappointed with the early demise of JML in Monte Carlo - the worst possible start to the season for him if he has any hope of challenging Loeb. He MUST win in Sweden and hope others can take points off Loeb or else he can forget it.

On the plus side for Ford, it was an outstanding MC debut for Petter in the Fiesta, showing both real pace and saying he felt very comfortable in the car: "I never dreamed of having a car as good as this, and to be able to attack on the stages like I have is unbelievable" "This is just fantastic – I just love driving this car, it is unbelievably fast, and they say it is even faster on snow and gravel! It is so easy getting into rhythm with the car, and then the rest is just fun! Can’t wait to do Sweden next!"

It could well be that he will the nearest Ford driver to taking on Loeb this year.

Sweden's result will be very important to the chances of a competitive season ahead...
22nd January 2012, 17:02
Barreis

Louise should cook.
22nd January 2012, 17:36
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langdale Forest

How can someone be so pessamistic?

Hirvonen set some good times in Monte-Carlo (not his faveorie rally), and he is expected to be one of the favorites for the win in Sweden.

its good to be a minor...i envy you...
22nd January 2012, 17:50
Wim_Impreza

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeD

Yes, Latvala is faster but that's because Hirvonen is really bad on tarmac which doesn't make JML especially good. JML is still extremely crash-prone and you could hear from the interview with him that he was mentally shaken. He now has to win in Sweden or at least beat Loeb and PSolberg to get he title fight back on track. If he crashes again it's already game over.

Indeed, you said it very well.
22nd January 2012, 18:16
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

its good to be a minor...i envy you...

That cant be true, he carries the english flag and all of the mines have closed in england ;)
22nd January 2012, 18:36
RS

Interesting but slightly disappointing rally on the whole.

Hope that next year we might have live tv back and the entry list might be stronger.
22nd January 2012, 19:04
Barreis

Heavy me(n)tal music in coverage sucks.
22nd January 2012, 19:12
dimviii

i am very surprised that some mates like Petters performance at Monte.Did they have noticed that he is almost 3 minutes behind leader,while leader was in safe mode for 2 days?Meanwhile he(Petter) was fighting last 2 days for podium?
i really can t understant where is the ''ok performance''
22nd January 2012, 19:24
tolis

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

i am very surprised that some mates like Petters performance at Monte.Did they have noticed that he is almost 3 minutes behind leader,while leader was in safe mode for 2 days?Meanwhile he(Petter) was fighting last 2 days for podium?
i really can t understant where is the ''ok performance''

Bearing in mind that this rally was his first in a Fiesta WRC and also that it's a tarmac one, I think that Solberg's performance was not bad. However, I won't be happy if I see him fighting for 2nd place in rallies such as Mexico, Portugal, Acropolis...
22nd January 2012, 19:30
gregwrc

Flying Ott Tanak :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDEkUoZUz8
22nd January 2012, 19:34
Alpha

I was very impressed with Petter. New car, a rally where he's never done well, and he wasn't prioritized in the team until Latvala crashed (most evident when Malcolm told him to not run studs/softs diagonally like everyone else. That cost him a minute).

Sordo, an expert on asphalt was shocked at the times Petter were setting saturday and said after SS15: "Honestly, in this stage I was pushing really hard to be in front for the last one. But here the feeling was not so bad, and Solberg took 8 seconds in 11km. Congratulations to him, I really tried.. I don't know."

Really excited to see what Petter can do in the Fiesta on surfaces closer to his skillset, like snow and gravel.
22nd January 2012, 19:41
tolis

Day 4 Highlights -Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x0qVJ4KWS8
Day 4 Highlights - Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxl1UsXuTX4
22nd January 2012, 19:48
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

That cant be true, he carries the english flag and all of the mines have closed in england ;)

even in Newcastle ?? when i was studying there i heard that the best diamonds in the UK come from Newcastle....
22nd January 2012, 20:23
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

even in Newcastle ?? when i was studying there i heard that the best diamonds in the UK come from Newcastle....

Tramp Juice

This is the only diamond to come out of that place....! :D
Anyone who doesnt know what this stuff is, read the review, its priceless :s mokin:
22nd January 2012, 20:26
EightGear

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

even in Newcastle ?? when i was studying there i heard that the best diamonds in the UK come from Newcastle....

You actually studied?

:D
22nd January 2012, 20:59
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

Tramp Juice

This is the only diamond to come out of that place....! :D
Anyone who doesnt know what this stuff is, read the review, its priceless :s mokin:

LOL

this reminds me my non-compulsory Brewing class where the professor told us that usually Brits do not start drinking below the age of 16...i still remember the whole classroom bursting to laughter :D :D

oh the memories... the best years of my life :)
22nd January 2012, 21:15
mousti

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Originally Posted by EightGear

You actually studied?

:D

Surprising enough the guy is a PhD, isn't it Mr N.O.T.? :p
22nd January 2012, 21:30
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by mousti

Surprising enough the guy is a PhD, isn't it Mr N.O.T.? :p

yes indeed...

i guess this gives hope to sane people as well...

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