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10th January 2011, 18:02
ProRally

Petter confirmed for Swedish....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88853
10th January 2011, 18:06
jbmarcus21

Petter in DS3 WRC SWDEN §!!!!!!
10th January 2011, 18:13
N.O.T

i guess the finish propaganda didn't work out that well....i thought that citroen had 3 cars only according to them with the 3rd for mr kimi who although he made 356 billions last year he looks for budget to do all the events...lol.
10th January 2011, 18:19
Tomi

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

i guess the finish propaganda didn't work out that well....i thought that citroen had 3 cars only according to them with the 3rd for mr kimi who although he made 356 billions last year he looks for budget to do all the events...lol.

You are right about that, the mtv3 site is very unreliable, bad journalism really, they often refers to other sites, I think it can be compaired with many of the amateur rally sites on the web.
10th January 2011, 18:38
HaCo

If that's true, than it is just awesome! Petter for victory in Sweden!
10th January 2011, 18:39
Pinto

ice 1 world rally team petter and kimmi in a two car ds3 team thats the latest i here

http://www.rallysweden.com/kimi-and-...g=en#more-1770
10th January 2011, 18:43
vkangas

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Originally Posted by Pinto

ice 1 world rally team petter and kimmi in a two car ds3 team thats the latest i here

Rally Swden official site says that they are driving in different teams:

ICE 1 Racing WRC team for Kimi.
Petter Solberg WRC Team for Petter.
10th January 2011, 20:52
Pinto

what i am hearing that they will form a new team to replace the citroen junior team ICE 1 to be the name,but it maybe ran through the solberg team,thats comming form a pretty good source.but for sweden solberg will run under the solberg world rally banner.
but then again i could be wrong.
10th January 2011, 20:59
Allyc85

Woohoooo brilliant to see Petter will be in the WRC this year :D :D :D
10th January 2011, 21:51
Roy

Wrong thread
10th January 2011, 21:58
bassist

Petter in!!!!!

Whatever the name, I`m so glad he`s in!! I will follow the championship with interest now!
11th January 2011, 05:48
Brother John

Nice to see Petter where he belongs, RALLY-RALLY and RALLY!!! :up:
11th January 2011, 06:18
Leon

Some thoughts about Petter and his new deal with Citroen.
I´m glad that he will again drive in the WRC but I wonder if he will be “allowed” to win when a chance presents itself.
I also wonder if Petter is a back-up plan from Quensel in case Ogier continues to crash and the manufacturers title is in danger…
All the above maybe wishful thinking but I cannot get them out of my mind :)
11th January 2011, 07:41
6789

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Originally Posted by Leon

Some thoughts about Petter and his new deal with Citroen.
I´m glad that he will again drive in the WRC but I wonder if he will be “allowed” to win when a chance presents itself.
I also wonder if Petter is a back-up plan from Quensel in case Ogier continues to crash and the manufacturers title is in danger…
All the above maybe wishful thinking but I cannot get them out of my mind :)

Its strange, I'm sure Citroen could easily pressure him not to win, if they'd do that is another question.

I don't think Ogier will crash, but its a good point, Petter is there is something goes sour
11th January 2011, 07:47
Donney

I don't think Ogier will crash but he will try his hardest to beat Loeb and we've seen many times what that leads to, so Leon's idea sounds rather reasonable.
12th January 2011, 13:47
manta400

i see on Crash.net that Van Merkjstein has decided to skip sweden and start their WRC campaign in Portugal to alloy Petter the chance to start Rally Sweden... Very noble of him must be to allow time to build a new car for Petter? Any thoughts?
12th January 2011, 14:22
MartijnS

Yes, very noble imo :)
12th January 2011, 15:31
Mv Toy

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Originally Posted by manta400

i see on Crash.net that Van Merkjstein has decided to skip sweden and start their WRC campaign in Portugal to alloy Petter the chance to start Rally Sweden... Very noble of him must be to allow time to build a new car for Petter? Any thoughts?

Noble yes, but he had no chanse to score points in Sweden
12th January 2011, 17:26
EavesFan09

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

That is part of the IRC's charm that the entry lists and leader boards aren't identical from round to round, surface to surface. IRC still holds the local heroes factor (Andreucci, Magalhaes, Valousek, Feghali, to name a few from last season, even Loix to a degree), which has been very typical in the history of this sport, and also crucial for its support. Sadly that local heroes thing was changed to pay drivers finally when teams were changed from three seats to only two seats. OK, it can get very confusing if the entries change - and perhaps the potential modern fan would prefer stability - but how I see it, it's a breath of fresh air, wish WRC would have it more. Still, most IRC rounds include most of the top driver. Since Monte Carlo have started the series, the contrast with next few rounds have only been too big (Monte will always be the biggest).

With WRC you'll get 4-7 top drivers this season and rest of the bunch will be picking up what's left - it've been like that for too long. I don't say that WRC wouldn't be the absolute top of this sport, but over all, with IRC alongside, as a fan you definitely get more.

Then how in the name of all things rallying do you, as an IRC fan, keep track of who is in and who is out as each rally goes on?
12th January 2011, 17:33
pettersolberg29

You have to be very keen i.e. check this forum or ircseries.com very regularly. If it wasn't for checking this forum multiple times a day I would have little idea what's going on outside Petter Solberg and Andreas Mikkelsen's careers!!
12th January 2011, 21:06
FabiaFan

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Originally Posted by Mv Toy

Noble yes, but he had no chanse to score points in Sweden

He'll have big problems to collect points anywhere else too... He's even not able to beat Hanninen... He has little scoring chance in rounds with poor entry list and not counting to the SWRC.
12th January 2011, 21:13
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by EavesFan09

Then how in the name of all things rallying do you, as an IRC fan, keep track of who is in and who is out as each rally goes on?

Taking a look at the entry list, perhaps.

From a spectator's point of view it's hard to foresee who's going to drive which event further in the season if the teams and drivers don't know it themselves yet either. Frustrating perhaps, yes, but this still is a spare time hobby and if you like it (or love it) you should be able to put in some effort to find necessary information. You don't need to be such a forum junkie as many of us are to keep track, dropping in here once a week or so would keep you as up to date on world of rallying as is necessary.
12th January 2011, 21:24
alleskids

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Originally Posted by FabiaFan

He'll have big problems to collect points anywhere else too... He's even not able to beat Hanninen... He has little scoring chance in rounds with poor entry list and not counting to the SWRC.

If Peter van Merksteijn never gets the change to drive a proper rally car, he will never get the speed to score points. It is hard to get experience, if his car is often taken away from him because Raikkonen en Solberg and Loeb and Ogier need his car. He signed and paid in december, long before Kimi or Petter had their plans straiten out. The modern WRC is a marketing championship, and Peter van Merkesteijn bought his share in the team, so he deserves a car.
12th January 2011, 21:41
FabiaFan

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Originally Posted by alleskids

If Peter van Merksteijn never gets the change to drive a proper rally car, he will never get the speed to score points. It is hard to get experience...

Poor him!
12th January 2011, 22:35
J4MIE

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Taking a look at the entry list, perhaps.

From a spectator's point of view it's hard to foresee who's going to drive which event further in the season if the teams and drivers don't know it themselves yet either. Frustrating perhaps, yes, but this still is a spare time hobby and if you like it (or love it) you should be able to put in some effort to find necessary information. You don't need to be such a forum junkie as many of us are to keep track, dropping in here once a week or so would keep you as up to date on world of rallying as is necessary.

Couldn't agree more :s Can't see what the problem is, if you're new to rallying then surely you have to understand that this is the way it works - WRC is unusual in that competitors (teams) must do all the events, even if there is no point whatsoever in doing an event. In fact, I can only think of the WRC that does this, so therefore IRC is more normal in that respect.
12th January 2011, 22:55
AndyRAC

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Originally Posted by J4MIE

Couldn't agree more :s Can't see what the problem is, if you're new to rallying then surely you have to understand that this is the way it works - WRC is unusual in that competitors (teams) must do all the events, even if there is no point whatsoever in doing an event. In fact, I can only think of the WRC that does this, so therefore IRC is more normal in that respect.

The WRC used to be like that. In fact, I actually prefer it that way - it lets competitors pick and choose which events are suitable for them. And, as used to happen, allows for the Tarmac/Gravel/ Snow specialists to come in and do the odd round.
13th January 2011, 01:01
Alpha

It's the WORLD rally championship. If you can't handle the snow or the tarmac, you don't deserve to win. I like that they have to do every round. Too bad Rally Norway is out, it was always fun to see Loeb throwing his car into the ditch every other SS :D
13th January 2011, 08:56
FabiaFan

Solberg's theatre

You know what, I have a strong feeling, that a complete season for P. Solberg is secured for quite a while already... they just keep playing the theatre to raise even more money... Don't throw stones at me for that, it's just my feeling...
13th January 2011, 09:56
rallyfiend

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Originally Posted by J4MIE

Couldn't agree more :s Can't see what the problem is, if you're new to rallying then surely you have to understand that this is the way it works - WRC is unusual in that competitors (teams) must do all the events, even if there is no point whatsoever in doing an event. In fact, I can only think of the WRC that does this, so therefore IRC is more normal in that respect.

F! you have to do all events, same with NASCAR. Any professionally organised motorsport you have to do 'all events'. It's that level of consistency that creates the association and builds the fans.
With the IRC you never know whether your favorite driver is going to turn up until they start the first stage!
13th January 2011, 09:56
rallyfiend

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Originally Posted by FabiaFan

You know what, I have a strong feeling, that a complete season for P. Solberg is secured for quite a while already... they just keep playing the theatre to raise even more money... Don't throw stones at me for that, it's just my feeling...

+1
13th January 2011, 10:32
Leon

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

+1

or even to keep the PS PR machine to work
13th January 2011, 10:53
Sulland

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Originally Posted by Leon

or even to keep the PS PR machine to work

He is good at as well !!
13th January 2011, 11:20
dimviii

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Originally Posted by Sulland

He is good at as well !!

+1
Petter himself said at Martin Holmes annualy ''pirelli world rallying'' that he is trying to make stories for PR.He said that also the story with the engine vs Loebs car engine was for PR reasons only.
13th January 2011, 11:59
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by dimviii

+1
Petter himself said at Martin Holmes annualy ''pirelli world rallying'' that he is trying to make stories for PR.He said that also the story with the engine vs Loebs car engine was for PR reasons only.

Not exactly:

"...Actually in Jordan the specification of our car was pretty much the same as the car of Sebastien Loeb, same engine but the gearbox was different, although in reality the difference in the gearbox does not matter. There was funny story about the gearbox. The Citroen factory would not sell us the latest specification gearbox, which they said was lighter, so my codriver Phil Mills and I had to lose weight to make up for our heavier gearbox - but really that was a story we made up for publicity. Especially in Scandinavia, I really need publicity all the time! They always need stories... I cannot just be the driver, that is what life as a privateer means, sponsorship doeen't happe by itself."
13th January 2011, 12:14
6789

Oh lol. But I liked the story of the $1 million gearbox shin is 4kgs lighter. Still love the man.

I was watching an on board from Cyprus in 2009 today, Petter had an issue where he stalled. Right after he passed the finish boards, he asks Phil the time. It was a few seconds faster than Sordo but that stall would have cost a couple seconds Phil replied. Then when TV interview him at TC he says he lost 15 seconds with the stall. So it does it a bit, all part of the mind games and getting people interested.
13th January 2011, 14:13
Alpha

I love the mind games, it adds to the fascination of the sport. Like when Henning Solberg pulled up to Sordos stall in the service park, turned the wheels all the way over to show which compound he was running, then grinned and drove off. The tirechoice got even harder for Sordo and really got into his head. In the first turn Sordo put his C4 off the road. Excellent stuff!
13th January 2011, 14:18
dimviii

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Not exactly:

"...Actually in Jordan the specification of our car was pretty much the same as the car of Sebastien Loeb, same engine but the gearbox was different, although in reality the difference in the gearbox does not matter. There was funny story about the gearbox. The Citroen factory would not sell us the latest specification gearbox, which they said was lighter, so my codriver Phil Mills and I had to lose weight to make up for our heavier gearbox - but really that was a story we made up for publicity. Especially in Scandinavia, I really need publicity all the time! They always need stories... I cannot just be the driver, that is what life as a privateer means, sponsorship doeen't happe by itself."

Did i said something wrong? :vader:
13th January 2011, 16:31
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Did i said something wrong? :vader:

You quoted right about the PR thing, but I wanted to specify that Petter vs. Loeb engine thing was actually a gearbox thing in Jordan. Talking about Petter engine conspiracy goes further than that I think, notably like mentioned here lately to Rally Finland's Day 2 sudden lack of performance for instance.
13th January 2011, 20:56
SunDanceRanch

http://www.motorstv.com/car/rally/wr...wrc-campaign-0

I don't understand is he gonna drive for himself or for a factory team??

Greetings Dimitry
13th January 2011, 20:58
Gard

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Originally Posted by SunDanceRanch

http://www.motorstv.com/car/rally/wr...wrc-campaign-0

I don't understand is he gonna drive for himself or for a factory team??

Greetings Dimitry

Yes! :D

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