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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

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Yes Bob but don't you find the promotion of hate,racism which has led to hate related crimes just as ridiculous as honor killings which seem despicable to you?
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NO-murder and political opinions are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Same as the Russian-Estonian relations which YOU posted above ;) Don't give up now,I'm having so much fun :bounce:

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It was in reply to your jibberish bunky.
It is not surprising you are easily entertained, but it is good you are having a nice day.

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Originally Posted by Eki

How about food on the table, employment and a roof over your head for everyone?

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Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Bob, I came from a country with such regime. The communist regime is built on murder. All that are defending it are defending a system, built on absolute evil. JIMO.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Well I will tell you some of the advantages of the communist regime I lived under; There were no homeless,no missing children,no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal.There were many more as well as a 1000 bad things,but please don't lecture us ---Why the whining then if you are (- " having so much fun "http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ies/bouncy.gif) on things you've read in books or your government has instilled in your mind.

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Oh my you wish to trash the U.S. and the net is full of articles about Estonia despising the Russians, hmmm.
If you do not like the exchanges on this forum leave, otherwise you had better get a back-bone as the ishy stuff you are having snit-fit about will not go away.
Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I would presume, though, that said country also possessed a secret police force of extreme unpleasantness, as most did; that it denied its people free and fair elections for decades; and that political dissent was not tolerated? If not, maybe you might like to tell us which country you are referring to, and explain why the outside view of such regimes is wrong.

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I was pointing that even such regime had advantages and it's a balancing act.Like every form of government it abused its power.If you read my post you quoted I mentioned it had 1000 wrongs so I'm not denying them.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Yes the US prison system it's much more generous paying inmates 50 cents a day so they can buy one Coke in the commissary and get stabbed for it later insuring a lifelong "slave" status.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

I was pointing that even such regime had advantages and it's a balancing act.Like every form of government it abused its power.If you read my post you quoted I mentioned it had 1000 wrongs so I'm not denying them.

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Indeed, and I note that. However, if one is to take, say, the East German regime as an example, I would suggest that its 'abuses of power' go some way beyond those of any civilised nation in that same period. The same can probably said for its fellow Soviet Bloc regimes.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Yes the US prison system it's much more generous paying inmates 50 cents a day so they can buy one Coke in the commissary and get stabbed for it later insuring a lifelong "slave" status.

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I assume then you have had the pleasure of going through the U.S. penal system.

If you think our system, in any state, even at it worst level is anything like the Soviet system, you are either a prejudiced twit or just blowing troll smoke.
Our prison system has problems, not executing those on death row quickly whilst the families whose loved ones were murdered pay for their health care with their taxes (prison inmates have the best health care in general of anyone except politicians).
The brutality that often kept prisoners from repeating out of fear is gone, and that is probably a good thing.

The best way to fix the prison system is do not commit crimes, oh wait we do not have political prisoners and over there your society is so perfect that-- "no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal"-- ALL the prisoners are political prisoners.
I guess there is no comparison.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

I assume then you have had the pleasure of going through the U.S. penal system.

If you think our system, in any state, even at it worst level is anything like the Soviet system, you are either a prejudiced twit or just blowing troll smoke.

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Or someone who can read:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...015-16nkl.html
X-Ray was a rudimentary, brutal jail. It was January 2002. His cage there was ''three steps wide by three steps long''. He had two buckets. He had a foam mat and a sheet and towel. Shampoo smelled like ''industrial cleaner'', the toothpaste tube oozed ''a white, smelly liquid''.
He could only sit or lie in the middle. A small wooden covering above the cages blocked the sun for two hours a day. He would lie on his back and stare at the sky, ''an escape, so peaceful, so blue''. There was no standing up, no touching the wire, no talking, no looking around. Breaches meant punishment from the military police's Instant Reaction Force, or IRF, whose beatings came to be known as being ''earthed''.