Just put škoda on it.. :D
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Just put škoda on it.. :D
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
Direct broadcast from that different space..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4np3...eature=related
BDunell, Barreis: Guys, You don't need to be rocket scientists to understand that Your thinking that it's possible to stop railguards with such sharp blade on their end penetrating the car is very naive. That post of JRodrigues is in fact very good because You would really need something like that to do so.
In very simple math You get that a S2000 car with crew and fuel moving 100 km/h has kinetic energy of cca 0,5 MJ. It's 3x more than muzzle energy of 30 mm gun round or 200x more than machinegun bullet. If You would have a one kilogram heavy thing, it would have to fly at 3600 km/h to have such energy...
There is no passenger/race car in the world which would stop those rails. You would need armor plates all around and ten centimeters thick bullet-proof windows. Alltogether it would weight a ton.
I don't understand what does Škoda have to do with that ? It would be the same with any rally car ( not just S2000 ) , and it will take lots of years of safety development to be able to stop that kind of penetration . That rail is technically like a spear , and all of you can use basic physics formulas ( like Mirek noted ) to see for yourselves that current safety from these kind of impacts is VERY far away for current technology and materials .
Sorry for the offtopic ... I saw a similar crash in person , at 4th Carnia Rally Ronde last year . It was also in Italy , the roads were very common , it was also a rally Ronde and the crash was similar , although with lot smaller speeds ( after a hairpin ) . The driver was Nicola Cescutti , he slided too far due to wet road and hit the rail ( although a very old and rusty rail ) directly , with devastating damage to his Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 . The rail penetrated the car , although not as much as Kubica luckily . Both crew members were unhurt . At the bottom of the page you can see the car ( http://www.desno4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=23 )
You're Chech and I understand that you like škoda but never saw in my life pictures like that.. I saw many accidents on highways but never saw that rails passed through whole car.. That's bad.. What Kubica would say in public after all and if he wasn't hurt in that accident?! Would be interested to hear somebody with authority in public about fabia rails..
That has nothing to do with Škoda but with laws of physics. When I studied vehicle safety I could see several accidents with rails penetrating whole car (BMW X5 for example). It's just a matter of physics. I have even saw a Mercedes E-Class almost cut into two pieces by motorbike...
Warning, some terrible graphic photos. Don't watch these photos who believe me (many cars penetrated by guardrails) ;)
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/articl...-audi-r8.shtml
yes, the driver lost both his legs...28 years old...drunk driving and high speed.
the car is for sale at 40.000 euros a dealer who specialises in destroyed exotics has it.
BDunell, and Barreis you are missing the point that Kubica was driving a Skoda. A guardrail like that would penetrate and tear open any car. It is not Skoda that should be under the spotlight here, but the highway authority that used that type of guardrail and maybe the organisers for not protecting the end that came into the car with some form of soft protection. I am not some crazy guy who want to put run off areas and make stages into race tracks but to allow a man made hazard is crazy. If it was a tree, or mountain side I would not saw anything, but to allow a can opener on a stage.....
[quote="MJW"]
Yeah, I have seen in many rallies that such hazards are often eliminated by using hay balls. It does not cost too much but it is very effective. Even if you crash on it, it bounces you off (due to the round shape) and absorbs some of the impact energy. But the problem is that it still costs something and organizers budgets are always quite tight...