No problem with a closed stage as long as it's still a hundred or so kilometers long. Africa's really big.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
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No problem with a closed stage as long as it's still a hundred or so kilometers long. Africa's really big.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
But Toyota have big issues for endurance. They will boycott the eventQuote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Imagine AnttiK with open road stages! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
We just had an accident in ERC Cyprus Rally even though the stage was "closed". We don't want any more of that.
I want to be really cynical and nasty and point out that it's not the real Safari without open roads and helicopters and 6000km over a week. I want to, but I can't. I'm just too happy that the Promoter is finally willing to go back to Africa. What a win for the championship. It's been far too long.
I think it would be the best for everyone just to call it ”WRC Rally Kenya”
Maybe I misunderstood, but I read it as they will lose points if they have any more regulations violations.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Some countries still have idiotic laws from the past which are not enforced so if out highest legal system has leverage, so should this one.
It is not a competition in who can interpret the rules in the truest way to how FIA interpret them. It is a competition in who can be the quickest on the stages on equal terms. This is where the rules should be harsh, not for ridiculous things like time cards and a GoPro on your dashboard.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
You make it sound like excluding a driver for not having his time card is some obscure mean hidden deep inside the regulations that no one knows about, when in reality it's very simple. If right now in Ypres Rally, Princen or Cronin would forget their time card at a time control, they'd be excluded, period. The reason why we very rarely see something like that, it's because it's a silly and stupid mistake that codrivers rarely make.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
And this would have happened to Ogier in Sardinia as well, if it wasn't for Tanak. Thanks to him, stewards decided to give this "half penalty" to Ogier and grace him.
I don't know enough about what Lukyanuk did, so I can't say anything about his case.
There is no such rule in FIA regulations. The time card is only to have at next TC. Please stop speculating about this, it was already discussed thorough in Sardegna thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Alright: if Princen or Cronin would leave leave their time cards at time control, and arrive to the next one without them (which is what normally would happen if you forget your time card), they would be excluded. I wouldn't be surprised if some stewards in some rallies wouldn't even accept a time card taxi drive as Tanak did, and exclude the driver who forgot his time card anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was silly mistake by Ingrassia reading his notes for 100 time and not paying attention to this simple thing, He admitted it himself. If some stewards refuse to give it to someone else, it's their right, no one will blame them, it's only human will. There is no such rule regulated either.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
In my country we have a saying - Makes an elephant from a fly
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The Butter'fly' Effect
https://media.giphy.com/media/RCKkjbwSrtSrm/giphy.gif
The Sardegna time card case shows us the exact reason Stewards are at events. Yes, there are regulations, but they can't cover all situations, moreover sometimes there are extenuating circumstances. So, at one event the Stewards may decide on exclusion for this (as outside assistance) at another they may apply a different penalty. What the Stewards couldn't do was say, 'ah it was a simple mistake, no advantage received, we'll let the team off with a warning'. Imagine how the other WRC teams would react! So, IMHO the Stewards made the best 'political' decision. They handed down a quite severe penalty, but suspended its application unless the team misbehaved again.
My thoughts on the return of Safari: https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.co...of-the-safari/
Romain Dumas just SMASHED Loebs record in PIKES PEAK HILLCLIMB with the electric VW with 7.57 min... Loebs record was 8.13min
this is the beast we are talking about.... wow sub 8 min pikes peak run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lq8VQOHFPQ
N.O.T, the pub is next doorQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
VAG keep innovating at Pikes Peak.
they need that, after all these happened with diesel gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
we have to mention that electric cars have no power loss at all,even at the finish of pikes peak.
Petrol cars have lost almost the half power.
There's little more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
still impressive victory given the VW car is about 220 kg heavier than the Peugeot.
and 150-250+ bhp more from midway to top of mountain.Also flat torque from ''idle''Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
electric cars are different league in terms of power.This one accelerates faster from F1 car.
In the previous Finnish Championship event production car title contender Henrik Pietarinen were excluded, because his co-driver noticed some mistake/unidentified mess with the time card and they reversed back, but had left the TC area already.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yes, but there is a big difference. Pietarinen clearly broke the rules by going back to TC area, that is something Ogier didn't do. I'm quite sure they were aware of the mistake very soon and had all the time to come back and pick the card, but they didn't do another rookie mistake. So all in all, Seb stayed deep on the grey area doing nothing that's clearly stated in the rules to be a reason for disqualification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
From my point of view the penalty was absolutely correct, let's move on.
https://www.rallit.fi/rallin-mm-sarj...oinen-ehdotus/
The WRC Calendar is expected to be expanded to 16 events from the current 13. In order to keep the costs down, Kaj Lindström from Toyota Gazoo Racing suggests that the rallies would start on Friday morning with shakedown, with then the actual driving continuing until late night.
I still have a hard time believing cutting one day from each rally would equal the cost of traveling to three new rallies...
There's a simple principle.
Don't. Change. What. Works.
Yeah me too. However, driving until late night does soften the blow for cutting off a day somewhat for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I wonder which are the extra 3 events. I have heard about Kenya, Croatia, a latin american country? Any chance for Acropolis in the near future?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Chile will be in by all accounts. Kenya for sure & probably Japan
This. They have stopped talking about Croatia I guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Probably New Zealand too
Shame this technology is not exciting for spectators.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Its like beating a dead horse, we all know electric cars will have a important part in the future of everyday mobility but its share on motorsport will remain small for decades.
Just like diesel, it was the n°1 choice for every segment on several markets around the world for the last decade and its share on motorsport was insignificant, the only good effort was curiously also a VAG effort in Dakar with the Diesel Touaregs.
You are forgetting the Audi diesel Le Mans prototypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Right, another VAG effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Add Peugeot 908 to WEC list.
You miss the point. Diesel didnt need promotion by motorsport, it was massive already (and boosted by Govts pushing it as 'clean' due to CO2 targets).Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Electric needs all the help it can get...
They wrote the rules to give diesel an advantage at that time didn't they? Because they wanted to get more diesels in motorsport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
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A possible Safari Rally return is a complex problem for the WRC
https://rallysportmag.com/comment-a-...the-wrc260618/
Is that at Levels raceway? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Yip, just a photo I found online but I know the track well. Grew up watching racing there and have driven it myself a few times too.Quote:
Originally Posted by swanny