Magic stuff JK but remember that there is no rest for the wicked for there have been some wicked times over the years that your fellow Kiwi competitors have thoroughly enjoyed with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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Magic stuff JK but remember that there is no rest for the wicked for there have been some wicked times over the years that your fellow Kiwi competitors have thoroughly enjoyed with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Expected, and kind of deserved. After terrible start of season he did mostly ok. Very uneven speedwise (tires?) but clearly some highs.
I do have a feeling that the speed is not the main reason for this deal though. It's more about Evans/sponsors actually paying for the drive instead of M-Sport having to pay him. Well, looks like better option than Camilli anyway.
Securing Evans sounds like Ogier or Tänak is going away.
Maybe, maybe not. He is a good driver to have in a 3 car team, especially MSport as I think he brings some budget. Even if Ogier and Tanak stay Evans is the best option for the full year 3rd car. If they manage to keep only 1 of Tanak or Ogier then they can promote Suninen, if both of them go they could get Mikkelsen alongside Evans and Suninen. It also depends what DMACK do next year. There are a lot of unknowns but I think keeping him is a solid move from MSport.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Maybe we will have 3 M-Sport Michelin and 1/2 M-Sport DMACK
Ogier seems to be making noises that he's staying with M-Sport, bit odd seeing as he hasn't got on with the car as well as Tanak or even Evans (who has clearly struggled with tyres on some events). Can't really see the article but does it say that Evans will be with the top M-Sport or will he still be in the DMACK car?
what did he say to make you think that? I've only heard him say is that he wants a manufacturer backed team and he wants to know what he's doing early, not like last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Can't remember what it was, just that I was surprised by it because I thought he'd be looking elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I'm not sure that Ogier has many options.
Same with Andreas.
At least M-Sport seems to want Ogier.
FIA to take control of WRC chicane rules after Rally Finland row
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...rc-chicane-use
The controversial use of chicanes in the World Rally Championship will be regulated by the FIA following complaints from the drivers at last week's Rally Finland.
Chicanes were added to the Finland route for the first time since 1987, but their deployment drew strong criticism from the drivers.
Complaints included a lack of room in the chicane and entry points that were confusing at rally speed.
The FIA said the event organiser was responsible for the implementation of the chicanes, but a source within Rally Finland was equally keen to shift the blame back to the governing body.
"If the FIA wasn't happy with the way the chicanes were set out, then they should have been there when we put them out to check them," said the source.
FIA rally director Jarmo Mahonen has confirmed the governing body will write a regulation directing events in how to lay chicanes out on future events.
"I agree with the drivers, nobody likes the chicanes," he said.
"But we have to do something when, in some places, the cars are going for 48 seconds without lifting at all from the top gear.
"But to stop the cars completely was not the intention.
"The chicanes in Finland have been built too tight and now we have to find a balance and we have to write the regulation: how do we make these chicanes, how many metres apart and this kind of thing so they are the same everywhere."
Teemu Suninen was the highest profile victim of the Finland chicanes.
M-Sport's rookie driver missed the second chicane on Ouninpohja while in the podium fight on Saturday and dropped 20s turning the car around to come back past the barrier.
Suninen, like the rest of the drivers, admitted he was baffled by the chicanes' purpose.
"I don't feel they make our lives more safe," he told Autosport.
"Sometimes it's hard to see where you go in the chicane and there's no room to escape if you miss it.
"When the stages are flowing nicely, I think it is more dangerous to stop the flow like this."
Even with the chicanes in place, the event became the fastest in WRC history, with Esapekka Lappi's winning average of 78.73mph edging him fractionally ahead of Kris Meeke's 78.66mph from last year.
Teams estimate without the chicanes the average speed would have been close to 85mph.
Lappi's actual final average speed was 126.1 km/h, a bit slower than Meeke's 126.6 km/h. There was some initial confusion because some average speeds were calculated with Rally Guide 1 stage lengths, not the actual lengths. But roughly the route changed the same amount slower as the new cars became faster. Difference between winning WRC car and winning R5 car was doubled.
Some stages (Saalahti and Lempää) were run exactly as last year, and the winning times were about one second to kilometre faster than last year. If that applied to the whole 330 km route, it would make 5,5 minutes of advance. If we take 5,5 minutes off Kris Meeke's 2016 result, that would make it a 131 km/h average speed, with last year's route and this year's cars.
*sigh*... the sequence is always the same.
Industrious, passionate locals organize a successful event. International group of bureaucrats take over said event because they're the "experts". Bureaucrats slowly destroy the event through a combination of ineptitude, disinterest, political correctness, and ambition. The formerly successful event fails. International group of bureaucrats move on to their next victim.
Mads Řstberg has just quit ERC Rally Rzeszów.
Said he was scared on high speed sections of steering failure on his R5 like yesterday. Rallying is now just for fun and he is not wanting to risk his life.
He clearly has bigger priotities now he's a father.
Power steering, not all steeringQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Sounds like the beginning of his retirement..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Listening live on rally radio it was quite shocking. He gave the most brutally honest stage-end interview I think I've ever heard.
This was the gist:
Absolutely no joy, I'm afraid of what happened yesterday. I don't want to drive this car anymore, I don't feel good in high speed. Big trees all around, if you lose the power-steering...
I don't enjoy this at all, I'm scared all the time. It's too dangerous. Might have to park-up...
I want to die at home, not in Poland.
Don't need to say anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=P...&v=knKvG2WmRMQ
You don't need to be a genius to understand why he retired, have you seen Sordo's off out of nowhere in Monte?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I was talking more about the 'rallying is just for fun now' comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Clearly the power steering problems were real having seen the onboard from leg one.
Maybe Mads also saw all the bad crashes that were happening in the rally (for driver's whose car's didnt have sudden steering problems !)...
http://mmuk.realviewdigital.com/?iid=154760#folio=40
In the section below it says, Turkey is a near certainty coming back to the calendar (assuming the political situation stable) Croatia might be added while NZ has only an outside chance of returning. That FIA must be quite corrupt if they let Turkey in & NZ out?! Totally lost their minds imho.
An earlier news article stated that Turkey would return but not yet in 2018, whereas NZ and Croatia were the contenders to replace China in 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129337
EDIT: Now there's an autosport article as well saying NZ is not gonna get in... http://www.autosport.com/news/report...2018-wrc-dates
Turkey. Honestly? Well, as we all know FIA doesn´t care about politics. If there are F1 races in Russia, the UAE or Azerbaijan why not choosing Turkey as a venue for a WRC round? Very good idea! I´m sure there will be many fans from other countries who want to come to a country where human rights are so important like they are in Turkey!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
$$$. That's all FIA sees. You pay, you can have a race/rally. You don't, well tough luck...
http://www.eurosport.co.uk/wrc/wrc-d...27/story.shtml
Interesting situation
Turkey hosted this event 6 times
They do it at China and now you are talking about Human rights?
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Yes, but in 2010 when the rally was hosted for the last time the situation has not been as critical as today.Quote:
Originally Posted by aykutbilir
You are right, it´s a long list of countries who impinge on human rights. And as much as I criticize a round in Turkey, I would criticize a round in China if this would take place.Quote:
Originally Posted by aykutbilir
Like last year and just canceled cause of flood
Anyway
I really dont care if we have WRC or not
I will nice to watch lastest cars here at home for sure but it never make a plus rallying at national level.
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That's almost a one year old article. Situation has gladly improved. If they managed to get back WRC alongside F1 (the last is almost certain), that's a huge achievement for Turkey. Still, it's a shame not to have NZ back.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmm
Saying things have improved is optimistic. I agree that the chance for immediate danger right now is lower, but overall they are heading the wrong way - this was especially highlighted by their referendum this spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
More European (gravel) rallies ? How exciting. NOT.
This is the WRC... we already have an ERC & TER.
Isn't it the promoter who puts forward the calendar. And the FIA just ratify it?Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
I said it a few months ago, the Croatia inclusion stinks: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/april...4--12-12-.html
But ERC and TER have almost no value at all so why should WRC guys care about them at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Lets think a bit.
Of course North American event would be nice but I don't think its going to happen until they start to have their own R2's and R5'sc cars etc.
I would also love to see NZ back but we don't know whats actually going on there and why it's currently looking that we're not going to see them yet atleast next year.
Asian or African event would be something that most manufacturers probably would like to have but we all remember how China worked out. Also I havent heard about safari for a while so I guess it's not coming back either atleast in a near future.
Then if Poland now has to be skipped we have room for 1 more European gravel rally so why not do it in Turkey if it's safe enough.
What else do we have available? "the new event" needs to be good enough rally to be in WRC, it needs to be safe, it has to have some value to the manufacturers and it also have to have strong-ish local scene or atleast good compination of those to work and I don't see any of those happening anywhere else.
No crew on ERC cares gravel events check the entry listQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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The whole NZ thing seems very bizarre to me. It seems like the only event which is prepared to be in the 2018 schedule. They're holding a candidate event a week after rally Aus.
From the http://www.rallynz.org.nz/ website:
With the prospect of being back in the calendar, the team @ RallyNZ are working hard to be hosting the worlds biggest motorsport event here in Tauranga, New Zealand, in 2018.
There must be something going on background. NZ would be perfect canditate to have next years free spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
I used to love rally Turkey. Really, after Bulgaria and Jordan, it probably can't get worse than that.
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They dont like them either !Quote:
Originally Posted by aykutbilir
No, I'm speaking as a fan, a spectator. There are enough European gravel rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
This WRC situation is a chance for more variety... in conditions and countries. It is meant to be a World Championship after all...