yes, Tänak back in the main team although he had an offer from factory team. And not from the team you all think...
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yes, Tänak back in the main team although he had an offer from factory team. And not from the team you all think...
Very interesting, thanks EstWRC. Could M-Sport actually be paying a driver next season? Makes you wonder why he turned down Citroen (I'm guessing) or Hyundai? Maybe not a full 14 rounds on the table - for instance in the third Citroen...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Well nice words to his sponsors and die-hard fans but indeed, for a driver who drives already ten years with the most of them in a full-season in a factory car (including test, best engineers around him) it's quite pathetic this quote "learning corner entry's and exit. If i had been Malcom (or any other teammanger) i would say this is it, you are out. First of all he did a mistake in preparation because he should had taken also the long ratio gearbox with him to this rally (most German rally's have long straights, if you just google for some minutes you would know that and for sure this rally if you look the stagemaps before). After the recce he should know that this (short) gearbox would give the highest speed. If he really wants to learn corner entry at least he should do it with the most speed available, now he complains about the many times he got on the on the rev limiter on every straight. What a amateur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Please remember: Mads Ostberg is a very good driver but nothing special in top of the WRC. Mads should drive the ERC next year, there he can celebrate more poduims :)
And about Fabian Kreim: he has the luck Skoda Germany invest a lot in him; he drives the German championship, the Asian-Pacific rounds, already 2 rounds in Czech from one of them was the Barum ERC round and also the German WRC round. And when the competition is strong (WRC & ERC) you can clearly see he has still a long way to go to reach the top.
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if he is happy by being 2nd behind kreim then 10th in Corsica against wrc drivers would be GREAT RESULT!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Is he being sarcastic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
'Lucky me!'
That's truly patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Lucky him if he gets to learn to drive the R5 on a variety of surfaces if he does not get a 2017 WRC car.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Kreim is improving, but I am afraid he may (or may not) end up like Wiegand. Very fast but one step under the top. Nobody knows at the moment and it means Skoda Germany could be quite disappointed in next few years with second bad investment. OR He would reach the top and I would be the dummy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jacko
Judging by Twitter it looks like there is a Hyundai media event going on for the next two days. Wishful thinking for more 2017 news?
Some tarmac test...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsAi3wbWYAAe0li.jpg
What happened to Wiegand? He just dissapeared from news 2 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
He´s doing some very few (so far only 2 in 2016 - see ewrc-results.com) German rallies, local ones and also championship runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
Most of his time he seems to be spending with cross biking and amateur street races, but not on a serious level.
Škoda Deutschland kicked him out after 2014 season (where he was until the very last event in the title battle with Lappi) and took Fabian Kreim instead (from Opel junior team). After that Wiegand hasn't managed to find sponsors for anything worth talking about. He just did several events with Orsák Rallysport team but when You do 1-2 events per year it's over with You. I still think he could have been given one more year as I wrote in German rally news thread though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
Regarding Kreim I think he needs at least one more season to judge him. Still the choice of him was a bit strange as Marian Griebel was faster of the two Opel drivers already back then.
Full info on their training weekend in the German rally championship:
Mads and Ola, this time in the Adapta Motorsport Ford Fiesta R5, were guests in Rally Lower Saxony this weekend. The event, which is a round of the German championship, gave the duo the opportunity to get useful asphalt training for German asphalt specialists before the next World Cup round, the Rally of Corsica.
"We travelled to the course with specific plans to train on several aspects to improve asphalt technology. I think we got very good results in terms. It is mentally much easier to train on new things in races that do not count, than when it be fought on World Ch'ship points. There will always be some trial and error when new things are evolved into, and it's not so easy when the urgency is there fully. we are very happy with what we got out of this over the weekend "
"The race came on short notice, and we did not have more than to put together a small but very talented team, which solved service tasks 100%. We did not have to study the slopes like we usually do, other than that we found out that there was much straight ahead, with many hard braking into the very many angles and weighted formulas. it looked really good for the training program we had set up. it did not, however, looked very good with the exchange we have in our transmission, as has a top speed of 178 km. our German competitors reached over 200 km on their cars. There is a gearbox with higher exchange to our car as well, but we have not available at the moment. In that sense we did not utilize the vehicle's capacity this time, but it had no bearing on what we were there for, he continues.
"We had teams of people around the track as observed and reported, we had close dialogue along the way. We got a lot out of what we worked on. We lost a lot where it went straight ahead. But got made measurements which showed good progress in time for braking area and speed out of turn. we will bring forward when we prepare for Tour de Corse, with the goal of getting a concrete development of pace from the last World Cup round on asphalt, where we finished in 6th place in Rally Germany", concludes Mads.
More http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/septe...5--12-12-.html
In 2014 the fastest was Emil B, wasn´t it? Who mentions him? Even though he still struggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Emil obviously isn't German therefore there is no reason to speak about him in relation to Škoda Deutschland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Kreim is three years younger than Griebel and was less experienced. I think that probably made the difference. A bit late for Griebel. Too bad: Speed and consistency are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Maybe. It's more the launch of the 'N' fast road cars, but nice that rallying was the genesis of the sub-brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Thanks for explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's just my point of view ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Gymkhana 9 by Ken Block is online => http://bit.ly/2cop2Fa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bkX5VkZg8U
Are you serious ? Nobody cares about the staged videos that chinless vagabond dog produces.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Also Kreim has a lot of financial background in his family - maybe another reason why he´s doing so many rallies.
Did an interview with finish website www.Rallirinki.net , Hortusvuori on the forum, on how i work when making video's and some views on the media side of WRC :)
https://rallirinki.net/2016/09/13/th...-million-hits/
wrc.com speculating about line-ups http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/septe...6--12-12-.html
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/septe...7--12-12-.html
"The WRC TV crew has to use a tripod to make the footage steady enough for TV. They also have to have a spot where their advertising banners can be seen and sometimes a place slow enough for sponsors on cars to be seen. Sponsors pay for our and the drivers enjoyment so we can’t forget them."
Very well said. And exactly the reason why the work of professional crews is not comparable to the work of fans.
Plus:
- for timing reasons the pros usually have to go to places not too far away from a parking spot
- to produce TV compatible footage often very good spots are not possible because of light, viewing angle, objects in view etc.
- the pros don't have the time (= are not getting paid) for doing daylong recces already at home
- the big majority of pictures have to be dedicated to teams/cars who pay for the whole thing
But for sure: There is room for improvement.
Bit of a slow news period at the moment but a couple of bits out of Motorsport News today:
WRC2 regs will be tweaked next year, mandating that all the registered drivers much enter and face off against each other at three selected rounds. So the FIA will pick three rallies which must count towards everyone's championship. They want to stop the idea of competitors avoiding each other and tactically selecting events.
It also appears like we'll have a running order solution sorted by the end of this month.
Most likely candidate - D1: Championship order / D2: Reversed championship order / D3: Reversed rally order
Other rumoured alternative - D1: Championship order / D2: Reversed championship order / D3: Reversed championship order
Neither are my favoured solution but I guess they've done it to try and remove any potential road order tactics. I'm a bit past caring now to be honest.
I have nothing against running in rally order all weekend and the tactics that go with that.
In every sport you have tactics, and without splits it would be difficult to estimate how much you should lose to avoid opening the next day.
They could even change the road order mid-day if they want.
Al-Attiyah on that VW deal that never happened - http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/a...medium=twitter
so according to him VW wanted him to rally but he refused...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Do all these dogs consider rally fans stupid (won't blame them judging by some in here) and they lie all the time ?
I don't believe it either....
I hope you find your happiness pill some dayQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Actually WRC TV have more possibilities than the amateurs, they can have helicopter lift into a stage or drive into it up to an hour before i think it is. They also use the heli to transport the tapes as well as motorcycle couriers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oppositelock
There are many places we have to skip where there are fencing 50m from the road and lots of marshalls, light is rarely an issue unless you have the sun straight into the lense.
They have one or two guys doing the video recce the week before or sometimes a month advance so no excuse, i think it's the Mexican called Omar doing it now? You can follow him on twitter @OmarWRC.
I've been talking with a Finnish cameraman from WRC TV in Sardinia, at that time he had actually already done recce for Rally China... ;)
I don't think it's so hard to find spectacular places when You have gazillon amateur videos from catching perfect action and only very few of those guys do some recce. The stages are largely same year by year and it doesn't take weeks to be prepared. Study some stage maps, aerial maps on the internet, sometimes google street view, videos and onboards from previous years and You can very well be successful - without any recce and without being a pro.
For the fans it is just a hobby, for the professionals - just a job.