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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I didn´t see posts saying Emil B would win. Show'em.

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I don't know how You could do that but somehow you changed name Gryazin for name Bergkvist. Denkimi wrote about Gryazin and I reacted on him. None of us commented Bergkvist.

There is a lot of posts predicting Gryazin to win including yours.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Yes Gryazin will be hard to beat.

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It starts with following post and takes several pages of arguments: https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...=1#post1207169

Including my completely wrong prediction that Veiby will be behind Gryazin.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I didn´t see posts saying Emil B would win. Show'em.

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I think Mirek meant Gryazin, not Bergkvist.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

Does anybody actually expect gryazin to be truly fast and reliable someday? He is just another rich kid who tries to make up his lack of talent by getting huge experience.

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If Gryazin lacks talent how come he was faster than Rovanpera and all drivers in the Finnish rally championship last year?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/4...ot-ralli-2018/

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I don't know how You could do that but somehow you changed name Gryazin for name Bergkvist. Denkimi wrote about Gryazin and I reacted on him. None of us commented Bergkvist.

There is a lot of posts predicting Gryazin to win including yours.



It starts with following post and takes several pages of arguments: https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...=1#post1207169

Including my completely wrong prediction that Veiby will be behind Gryazin.

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Ok. My bad. Misunderstood answer was for Gryazin...

In the wakes of discussions of Bergkvist here and there performance earlier on, I think he did what was expected. As said.

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

If Gryazin lacks talent how come he was faster than Rovanpera and all drivers in the Finnish rally championship last year?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/4...ot-ralli-2018/

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Rovanperä didn’t do that rally. Pietarinen was already a confirmed champion, didn’t push.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Rovanperä didn’t do that rally.

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Yes, that's true. But he did this rally:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/3...-liepaja-2017/

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Yes, that's true. But he did this rally:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/3...-liepaja-2017/

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That was Kalle's first event in a Fiesta and with just 50km of testing.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

Does anybody actually expect gryazin to be truly fast and reliable someday?

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Yes.

It’s fair enough to call him a rich kid, but on the other hand I don’t see what he had been doing as much different to Kalle.

Being privileged doesn’t automatically mean you have no talent.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I didn´t see posts saying Emil B would win. Show'em.

Only realistic from him was to be top five and he did.

Veiby unexpected, yes, but more home event for him than for Emil to be honest. Gryazin, Veiby, Kristoffersson did many rallies and had perfect preparations, not Emil. So to me he did very good. Hard for some guys to admit and say it out loud... ;)

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Emil has done five Rally Swedens and eighteen WRC events so not exactly inexperienced, although not so many events in an R5 car.

Can’t speak for others but I don’t think I personally ever criticised his talent. I did criticise his decision to drive a PSA R5 though. I still think that set back his career.

You shouldn’t be so sensitive :)