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I take issue with this statement - because Lewis was already alongside Maldonado when Pastor started turning in to protect his line at the corner. I see it as Pastor defending the corner too late - shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
You should learn to remember what you write in a post AND connect the dots to what I was referring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
To give an accurate account of what actually happened I've modified your post in quotes. Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Yes, yes I did see Maldonado cut across Lewis and give him nowhere to go.
Have a nice day .Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
And , be sure to tell all your friends that you have won this debate with me .
That's a cop out Baggy, very poor show. You can do better'n that???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Teach me how to win a debate in which your opponent sometimes doesn't read your words , or disregards them , and other times just blatantly changes them to make it look like you agree .Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
The Black Knight does not agree with my analysis of this situation .
I can accept that .
I didn't say he won this debate , only that he can tell his friends that he did .
Thank you for your encouragement .
It's not that I didn't read your words, I was correcting them. You said "Pastor knew Lewis was back there" which is clearly incorrect. This suggests he was behind him somehow, whereas can be clearly seen from the video he was alongside him. I'm struggling to accept that you grasp exactly what happened in the crash or have seen or more than once on TV during the BBC coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
I see your words but they don't make sense as per the incident.
Ok, I'll come at it from another angle. Please go back to the post I wrote last night where I posted a clip from YouTube. Can you please watch that clip and tell me at what point in seconds you believe that Hamilton should have backed off and where he should have gone from there in order to not hit Maldonado?
Pastor was ahead of Lewis at all times going into the corner - at no point in time in any of the shots was lewis any closer than halfway up the side of pastor and that was when he hit pastor having gone over the ripple strip
have a look - lewis has his front wing well back of pastor's front wheel when pastor started moving across along the line he had been setup to take the corner.
I don't suppose anybody here know the definition of a racing incident?
*grabs coat*
I'd imagine he was, otherwise I'm sure, despite how hell bent ye are on blaming Lewis for something that wasn't his fault, that even ye could not accept that it was Hamilton's fault. There comes a point where a driver is alongside his opponent enough to attempt to outbrake him. Hamilton was well within this zone. In fact, we've all seen overtaking maneouvres which have been pulled off with cars further back than Lewis. Why? Because if a car is trying to outbrake you the last thing you do is throw your car in front of him. We've seen this plenty of times in the past. Turn one in Montreal is a typical example of it, where in every race we see cars give each other room. Maldonado should have done this too. Given Lewis room and drove around him if he could, otherwise concede the position. If when trying to overtake it is simply Ok for a car to turn in on you then there would be no overtaking in F1, no one would try it because it would just end up in a crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbo
Again I ask you, at what point in the video I posted yesterday do you think Hamilton should have backed off and where should have have gone from there?
Smartass :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge