Top Gear!

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Originally Posted by henners88

A very good friend and avid follower of both Richard Burn's who was his neighbour and Colin McRae when they were both alive. I remember the episode where Clarkson dedicated a segment to Burn's shortly after his death and he very nearly broke down in tears as he socialised frequently with Burns and his family and he stated in his newspaper article that his death hit him and his wife hard. I believe Clarkson enjoys F1 but Rallying is his preferred sport. I also saw Clarkson at Prodrive a few years back at an open day.

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I stand corrected, then. Good to hear.

I liked the Range Rover bit, mainly because I've driven through that part of California before. I wasn't rock crawling but spent some time on unpaved roads. I have noticed Top Gear does spend a lot of time in the US when they go on holiday.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

And Féttle is pronounced Vet-L :p

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Or Wet-L. Webber is pronounced Web-Er.

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

I didn't enjoy this week's episode. The mid-segment with May and that Range Rover almost put me to sleep. One of the most boring segments ever in Top Gear. Vettel was meh.

What was interesting though was the first segment, with the amazing new Mclaren MP4-12C, of course ruined by Clarkson's Ferrari ass kissing. It looked, drove and sounded better than the Ferrari. What else do you want? Goo-Ferrari soul, passion, horse-goo. Idiot.

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To be fair Evo magazine, in a couple of tests now, have said the same things, the McLaren is a technical masterpiece and rewrites quite a few rules, especially in terms of ride and the ability to corner at higher speeds than anything else, but is not as thrilling drive as the Ferrari and has less steering feel. and in contrast with Top Gear's times, they actually had the Ferrari a second ahead of the McLaren in a back to back test round bedford autodrome. Not saying the the McLaren in rubbish or anything, and as a first supercar from the company (not including the McLaren F1) its an incredible machine, but don't discount views that it is maybe "only" as good as the Ferrari , or even a close 2nd, as rubbish just cos its Clarkson.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

And Féttle is pronounced Vet-L :p

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Or Wet-L. Webber is pronounced Web-Er.

Well the are both outstanding examples aimed at slightly different markets.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

To be fair Evo magazine, in a couple of tests now, have said the same things, the McLaren is a technical masterpiece and rewrites quite a few rules, especially in terms of ride and the ability to corner at higher speeds than anything else, but is not as thrilling drive as the Ferrari and has less steering feel.

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As has Car magazine too, but then every mid engine supercar that's been the equal of a Ferrari has been labelled as soulless, the Honda NSX, Audi R8 and now the McLaren.

I'd like to see how the McLaren compares to a top of the range Porsche. I know they aren't the same but the Porsche is the epitome of teutonic efficiency vs Italian passion and doesn't seem the worse for it.

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Originally Posted by Robinho

To be fair Evo magazine, in a couple of tests now, have said the same things, the McLaren is a technical masterpiece and rewrites quite a few rules, especially in terms of ride and the ability to corner at higher speeds than anything else, but is not as thrilling drive as the Ferrari and has less steering feel. and in contrast with Top Gear's times, they actually had the Ferrari a second ahead of the McLaren in a back to back test round bedford autodrome. Not saying the the McLaren in rubbish or anything, and as a first supercar from the company (not including the McLaren F1) its an incredible machine, but don't discount views that it is maybe "only" as good as the Ferrari , or even a close 2nd, as rubbish just cos its Clarkson.

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But that's always been the McLaren way, I have the Official McLaren F1 book called Driving Ambition and basically Gordon Murray set out to make a car with supercar performance but which you could drive every day if you wanted to. Bonkers supercars/hypercars are fun if you're 11 and need something to put on your wall, but if it were your car and you were wanting to drive it every day then you'd choose the McLaren every time.

The review of the BMW M coupe was utter poo. It was as if it was aimed at estate agents. And why did they not test it properly with the Cayman?

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Originally Posted by wedge

The review of the BMW M coupe was utter poo. It was as if it was aimed at estate agents. And why did they not test it properly with the Cayman?

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Yup, it was pretty obvious that they didn't 'race' the M Coupe against the Lotus and Porsche around a track because the two mid-engined cars would have creamed the BMW.

Its because of the way they skew roadtests to make whatever point they want to make that I only watch Top Gear on iPlayer skipping most of it. Its a shame quite a few people probably take what they say about certain cars at face value.

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

Yup, it was pretty obvious that they didn't 'race' the M Coupe against the Lotus and Porsche around a track because the two mid-engined cars would have creamed the BMW.

Its because of the way they skew roadtests to make whatever point they want to make that I only watch Top Gear on iPlayer skipping most of it. Its a shame quite a few people probably take what they say about certain cars at face value.

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I reckon you're right. A lot of people probably take the reviews at face value.