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Originally Posted by noel157
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Originally Posted by marcosg
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Originally Posted by noel157
Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.
I think he got caught out underbraking because of water (maybe icy) and that put him into the corner with just a little too much speed...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=710837678935231
onboard @02.00
Possibly, but too much speed whatever the reason.
Thanks for the onboard.
Maybe I post that someone else sound before me, but Robert off - it's a ice crew mistake. I didn't know Polish but looks like Kubica didn't know about water on that slipy breaking. Before that was dry-dry-dry-dry-dry-dry and when hard breaks come - on this part of tarmac - was water. Before - only(or 90%) dry. It was a surprise for him. And he took a breaking point if it all dry.
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Originally Posted by dimviii
About Duez,sure is a legend and big respect for him,but really can t understand all this wow about this drive at Monte.Similar times with r2 twingos are not wow for a works porsche cup car with some hundreds hp more.
Sorry, to answer such old posts but I was gone for a while...
The car Duez drove is almost stock 996 GT3. It's not a cup car and it is actually an old car as its production ended almost ten years a go.
And on very slippy conditions, the 'rodent's' are much more efficient than a 911, but on a dry Monte the situation would have been switched i guess.
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Originally Posted by Mirek
The car Duez drove is almost stock 996 GT3. It's not a cup car and it is actually an old car as its production ended almost ten years a go.
Mirek before few days i read a link in a French forum about this car,and what i said was from this link.
This car Duez drove was one of 10 cars build by Porsche motorsport.They transformed it to be right with homologation so can run at rallies.
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Originally Posted by Kielder
wow no barrier,if you fell bye-bye!!
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Just being smart, doing the exactly same things all Scandinavian driver do with snowbanks :p
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Originally Posted by KKS
Maybe I post that someone else sound before me, but Robert off - it's a ice crew mistake. I didn't know Polish but looks like Kubica didn't know about water on that slipy breaking. Before that was dry-dry-dry-dry-dry-dry and when hard breaks come - on this part of tarmac - was water. Before - only(or 90%) dry. It was a surprise for him. And he took a breaking point if it all dry.
Kubica in an interview said that this point was spoten from their ice crew,but he didnt thought that it will be so slippery.
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http://i.imgur.com/An61PLL.jpg
Best of Rally Montecarlo 2014 by Bunnings Video.
Includes two Seb Ogier´s crashes (one of them in complicated first stage´s first corner, where many drivers were very lucky)
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you should not crop the cars so much. especially the width of the road
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Googlish translation: source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url
Still much work on the Porsche
Before the start of the Monte Carlo Rally, the Belgian veteran Mark Duez (pictured) explains how and what difficulties had to enable the launch of the first car of the category R-GT, which first appeared on the start of the World Cup. The first start of Belgian and Porsche 996 GT3 RS is not glamorous. 64 th place in the first special stage, Mark Duez barely crawls to 44 th position overall. Obviously the car is not what the Belgians, and the audience is waiting for the new class in the World Rally.
"This car already has a national passport which allows it to compete in the races in Belgium, as happens in other national leagues in Europe. - Explains Duez. - But for his part in the Monte Carlo had to be a passport to the International Automobile Federation (FIA), which was further work on the car. There were many many small changes, but they just take too long. I had to remove the roof to weld the rolcage in front, I had to pour 60 liters foam in each of the two doors, and they are smaller than those of cars from WRC, which made the job very difficult. "
Separately, explains Duez requirements for this class and change in the fuel tank.
"And when it was all over, I had to prove that it was done in the way the FIA ??required to comply with the technical regulations. Technical passport of the federation is 100 pages, a huge document to show that everything is done as are the rules. "
Duez surprised that he was the only competitor who did this, saying that the other drivers or owners of GT cars would hardly have done all this work.
"Many pilots have had success competing in their own countries with Porsche, but the rules of the FIA ??are mostly wise in terms of safety."
Belgian is adamant that in Europe there are many Porsche's, Aston Martin, Nissan and Lotus (no secret that this is the only manufacturer that he recognized in GT) and is of the opinion that these cars have a place in every race asphalt World Series will be at the top of the column.
"I think it will be a lot of fun for the fans, because these cars are old fashion, the sound they truly are quite spectacular and is not slow," concluded Mark Duez.
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Originally Posted by dimviii
Problems for Ford going, no problem at all for the Polo, interesting
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This is the difference between an unlucky guy, a World Champion and a yes man driver...
http://i41.tinypic.com/289j7dt.jpg
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Another funny story...
Scooby-Doo found a sponsor for Bouffier
source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url
It seems almost as a movie script, but the dog of the 35 -year-old Bryan Bouffier is the reason the last two years the French pilot to find a sponsor and takes part in the Monte Carlo Rally .
"This is a very nice story. It all began in 2005 when I had a big dog . Was 80 -pound, like a Scooby - Doo. We called him Achu . Was 80 kg eating only chicken - explains the backstory Bryan Bouffier . - I got him when he was only 6 months and the only thing I wanted to do was to wean him to eat chicken. "
Achu flatly refused any other food except chicken and it turns out to be a big problem, even purely financial.
" I was shopping from the local supermarket, but the amount per month was really huge. They worked with a company specializing in the production of food of birds. It's called Royal Bernard . So first I made a call to the company asking if I could get the meat at a lower price, but initially I got a negative answer. "
Although disappointed, Bouffier goes straight to the head office to seek discounts direct from the bosses, not by the owner of the supermarket.
" We discussed the price and I got a chicken at a lower price - explains Bouffier . - Then in the last two years we met again and again getting my chicken . "
In 2012 the intention of Bouffier is to participate in Monte Carlo , but for a full budget he still needs more sponsors.
" I talked to the boss to see if the company is interested to help me. We arranged a meeting. The conversation lasted ten minutes and he became my biggest sponsor this year . The guy is not rally into motorsports, has three racing horses, but he trusted me , he said okay and realized that in 2013 I want to drive WRC, and he said he would help again. Here's how a year ago I could hire DS3 WRC, and now the Fiesta RS WRC. "
The sponsor Royal Bernard at the rear bumper.
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hahaha!! i want to see a photo of this dog. :D
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^ incredible! :) I was just few days ago wondering what Royal Bernard does!
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We had luck on this rally, we have to admit it. It could end on the first corner, we had some small slush and it was crazy. I understeered immediately and hit the wall. We improved the car in the winter: we reinforced all of the arms and maybe it was a good idea, otherwise it might have been the end of the race.
http://www.fia.com/rallye-monte-carlo-p ... nference-0
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Sordo at shakedown - If you want to see every competitor then shakedown is essential!! 5km into Stage 1 and we didn't see Neuville, Delecour or Maurin! Dani looked to be going very well on day 1. Presumably Nandan will have Neuville and the auto electrical tech with him for today's video conference with Korea!
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Originally Posted by dimviii
We had luck on this rally, we have to admit it. It could end on the first corner, we had some small slush and it was crazy. I understeered immediately and hit the wall.
So did Bouffier and nothing happened to Fiesta. That is little exaggerated.
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Originally Posted by stefanvv
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Originally Posted by dimviii
We had luck on this rally, we have to admit it. It could end on the first corner, we had some small slush and it was crazy. I understeered immediately and hit the wall.
So did Bouffier and nothing happened to Fiesta. That is little exaggerated.
you dont want to understand,even if Ogier admits he was lucky.
Sorry cant help any more.
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There is one occasion he was lucky, when he hit the barrier on left downhill. Everything else is exaggorated. You win, Ogier is lucky.
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There is one occasion he was lucky, when he hit the barrier on left downhill. Everything else is exaggorated. You win, Ogier is lucky.
stefanvv its not about who won,but to see some facts.There were more times that Ogier was lucky.At first stage hit the wall,at another stage was in the ditch with enough km/h for damage.I am not counting other moments like the one sliding without ability to do something to the edge of road without barrier,and the car stopped 1 cm from chaos.
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stefanvv its not about who won,but to see some facts.There were more times that Ogier was lucky.At first stage hit the wall,at another stage was in the ditch with enough km/h for damage.I am not counting other moments like the one sliding without ability to do something to the edge of road without barrier,and the car stopped 1 cm from chaos.
Bunnings video alone shows two hits of barriers by Ogier. Both big enough for some damage. He was indeed very lucky this time but it's true Bouffier had quite many moments too. Surprisingly it's Meeke who had the cleanest run. At least I don't know about any major moment of him and his onboard from Moutauban was very clean and accurate.
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Originally Posted by dimviii
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There is one occasion he was lucky, when he hit the barrier on left downhill. Everything else is exaggorated. You win, Ogier is lucky.
stefanvv its not about who won,but to see some facts.There were more times that Ogier was lucky.At first stage hit the wall,at another stage was in the ditch with enough km/h for damage.I am not counting other moments like the one sliding without ability to do something to the edge of road without barrier,and the car stopped 1 cm from chaos.
Frankly I would be surprised at this speed for the whole Rally and slicks on snow 1st loop to get away without something. Luckily he got away, probably because took some measured risks, probably some wreckless like hitting the barrier. His problem is he wants to win everything even when is heavily handicapped. Like Mirek said, Bouffier also had some moments, and one of them looked quite dangerous to me, Meeke was the only one probably without any mistake, I also don't remember anything wrong, but lets not forget he had proper tyres (or at least almost) all over the event, and only possible way to win it was if both French crashed out.
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Also in IRC when they could cut tyres they did it very extensively - removed all rubber from central part (making huge groove) and also every second rubber block of side rows.
I found a picture of such tyre from 2009 after Hänninen's crash. You can see every second side block and all middle blocks removed from the tyre.
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2009/irc/mont ... inen_5.jpg
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Originally Posted by stefanvv
Frankly I would be surprised at this speed for the whole Rally and slicks on snow 1st loop to get away without something. Luckily he got away, probably because took some measured risks, probably some wreckless like hitting the barrier. His problem is he wants to win everything even when is heavily handicapped.
there is a driver who won Monte,without crashing the barriers,through the car into ditches, hitting walls,and sliding to the edge without control waiting for luck.
This driver had Ogier as a competitor.Not Bouffier,and Kubica.
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Like Mirek said, Bouffier also had some moments, and one of them looked quite dangerous to me, Meeke was the only one probably without any mistake, I also don't remember anything wrong, but lets not forget he had proper tyres (or at least almost) all over the event, and only possible way to win it was if both French crashed out.
what do you mean about proper tyres for Meeke? Ogier had inproper tyres at all the moments we saw at ditches,barriers,walls?
why so many excuses? Believe me Ogier doesn t need them.
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It's been a great Monte Carlo for us, everything went well again.
Accessing Turini turned out to a complete havoc for the late spectators, cars reported to be all over the roads without snow equipment. We helped a poor Estonian couple on our way back : rental car in a ditch, bag fell down and hanging on a tree near a furious river 50m below, girl frozen and crying. We drove them back down to Nice later on.
So much snow, flashes, supporters, rally cars noises, hectic night ambience. We guessed second pass would probably be cancelled due to snow, didn't expect Melicharek to interfere but it worthed every effort and careful plannning. A must see live.
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I don't know if the counters are not working, but apparently vastly less interest in Monte this year on this forum;
last year: 2813 posts, 281298 views
this year: 1831 posts, 54292 views
Because Loeb has gone? But I would have thought Kubica and Hyundai would have added some interest this year.
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I remember that big part of last year Monte thread was occupied by season 2013 news.. this year it is betterly organized. las year there was this "like" button as well. Maybe it counted each click as a view? And If I remember correctly.. last years edition lasted for more days (competitive).
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Originally Posted by "dimviii"
:D
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Stefan, you defend Ogier too much with silly excuses and as Dimviii mentioned, look at the facts.
Meeke did not have proper tyres all the time and he did make some mistakes, luckily none that influenced his result.
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Nah, Ogier doesn't need my support, I just responded for some exaggorated mistakes he has done, like we saw everyone can make mistakes, I have no idea why only Ogier was so severely blamed for them. Because he won again?
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My video from one hell of a Monte Carlo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pPCu2el_YI
Thoughts and pictures to follow!
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Nothing is exaggerated. Ogier said himself he was lucky, period.
Being in the crowd and watching the cars wouldn't tell much about current classification : Ogier drove in front of us like a badly skilled butcher, yeah, call that 'raw' speed. Bouffier was everywhere and Hirvonen looked quick (sic).
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Bouffier at 4,32 :skull:
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Bouffier at 4,32 :skull:
He was on it everywhere we saw him! Bloody superb to watch! :bounce: