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Not forget, but let's say Hyundai is looking for someone to partner Neuville and Mikkelsen in Finland (as seems to be the case). Would you rather hire Paddon who's been more or less hiding in NZ the whole 2019, or Paddon who's been seen in the service park and done a few rallies in i20 R5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It's quite amazing that the Yaris WRC that's in Japan still has Lappi and Ferm on the side windows instead of Meeke and Marshall. You'd think four months would be enough for the job but obviously it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Citroen also shows its Xsara`s and C4`s with their original liveries and Loeb written on it, when they want to show that they are a winning-team with great history....M-Sport also.
Not so strange, when you look at it with the trophy.
That's the team that won the Manufacturers' Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Why would they change it?
I don't quite get the Xsara/C4 connection here, but I'm quite sure M-Sport isn't displaying a Fiesta WRC with Ogier's name on it on any Wales Rally GB event this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
I think I read somewhere that TGR signed Meeke and Lappi went over to Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
https://youtu.be/3Q10OjMEaJc?list=PL...KoeC9v3tQ&t=18Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
They advertise it as a 2018 manuf. champion car.
Are you being deliberately obtuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I thought to ask you the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
One of the good things about doing projects and vehicle manufacturer testing in NZ is that aside from some excellent testing grounds European media don't know what is happening which is why so many manufacturers go there for both winter and summer testing. Add to that the readily available engineering expertise and facilities should it be required then where better to develop projects outside of the public eye. Had you been able to view the brief job descriptions Hayden advertised when setting up the new facilities then perhaps one would realise that there is a plan afoot.
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Originally Posted by cali
I don't see Hayden changing brand from Hyundai. Like said, it could be a partnership that lasts beyond a WRC career.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
All is not lost for Paddon.
How much did you guys know about Tänak in 2013, after he was dropped and competed at estonian championship with his old Subaru? I guess not much, if anything at all, but still he managed to get back.
But Paddon must definitely get rid of this Hyundai deal.
I would love to see him in the Toyota or Ford.
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Originally Posted by pantealex
Paddon told Autosport/Evans: "Seat time is still so important and driving in a variety of conditions is really useful. The chance came to buy an i30 TCR and bring it down here and we jumped at the chance."Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000
"I'm always looking for ways to help work on my driving, especially on asphalt and this is another way to do that."
"Maybe we'd do some of those races [TCR in New Zealand] - but everything is still absolutely geared to getting me back to the WRC."
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...wrc-return-bid
Seems odd to me. But IIRC a TCR car is less than half the price of an R5 and presumably easier/cheaper to maintain. Maybe Hyundai NZ wanted to get involved in circuit racing/TCR NZ and Paddon is just taking the money and facilitating it?
Nevertheless, pretty poor that Hyundai Motorsport couldn't spare a bit of budget to co-fund some kind of R5 campaign with Hyundai NZ...
Petter Solberg end his top level carriere:
https://www.vg.no/sport/motorsport/i...-som-vm-foerer
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Paddon is supported financially through Hyundai NZ. Therefore their NZ Motorsport activities go through Paddon Rallysport. He is also the supplier to NZ of Winnmax brakes, EXT suspension, wheels amongst other things.
How hard is it to understand it is a business that is generating return. He is not throwing cash in a hole.
Going and doing selected Europe events would be spending hundreds of thousands of Euros, with no return ($$).
Im sure what Paddon is doing is biding his time, and rallying financial support around him, which includes a successful business he is building. Time will tell but Paddon will not be giving up.
Shame. Well, fingers crossed now that he will convince Subaru guys to bring their involvement into WRC again and he will be the man to lead the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
https://rallysportmag.com/rally-japa...andidate-test/
Matton and Ciesla plans are getting more and more confusing. Apparently they’ve announced that the 2020 WRC calendar will have 8 European rounds and 6 on the rest of the world (the current 4 plus Japan and Kenya). But what about Turkey, isn’t the rally already a non European event? Why to include it in the European quota if it’s actually totally based in Asia?
Btw, the Japanese pre WRC rally (already successfully inspected as a candidate event last year) wil be run this year one week prior to Australia, with a total of 122 stages kms (76 miles). How will they get the extra 178 kms for the 2020 edition?
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...rally/4366648/
Maybe they'll just run some super special 20 times to bridge the gap...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
I think it's quite common for rallies to be shorter than WRC events when they don't have the WRC value. A longer rally is more expensive to set up and there's no sense to do it when you don't get as much exposure as with WRC. It doesn't mean they are not capable of arranging a longer rally.
Yep I see plenty of opportunities yet for Paddon in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by leighton323
There are plenty of WRC drivers like Loeb, Meeke, Latvala & Sordo who wont be in seats much longer. And Paddon is one of the few available experienced WRC winners out there.
It does make sense to organize a proper event... It's not because you can organize a 120km event, that you are capable of doing the same for a 300km event with 10 to 100x as much spectators. I think events should already have a certain quality and reputation before going to the WRC. Events like Catalunya and Germany had a big reputation already before they joined the WRC calendar. Nowadays they choose events based on the world map. "Oh, Japan looks fun, Corsica or Sardinia will have to leave." I think FIA and the promoter are taking big risks with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I think you've missed the point - this event in November is a promotional stunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
They already ran their proper Candidate Event that was evaluated by FIA in 2018.
Typical Japanese mentality. Going 110% beyond. I think it's about time Japan comes back to the scene. Would be a good one to spectate and might be the start for other Japanese manu's to get involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Actually, besides the promotional stunt this year event intends to be a test for the organizers; once they’re using less than 40% of a proper WRC event stage miles, it’ll hardly be a full scale test. Btw, last year candidate event route was even shorter and a bit bizarre, which makes one wonder if the FIA and the promoter aren’t dangerously lowering the series quality level in order to get new foreign events. https://rallysportmag.com/is-this-th...rary-unveiled/Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Rally Chile 2018 143 kmQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Rally Turkey 2017 199 km
And rallies that got dropped from WRC:
Rally Poland 2018 (ERC) 214 km
Acropolis Rally 2014 (ERC) 238 km
Rally New Zealand 2017 226 km
BTW it almost seems like a preset formula for a new WRC rally to have 2x3 stages on Friday and Saturday and two single-run stages between the two power stage runs on Sunday. The China Rally, Turkey and Chile all were made on this formula (until Chile had the repeat of SS1 removed on RG2)
For sure there’s no need to run a 300 SS kms event as a pre WRC test (or candidate event), but under 200kms will always look a bit short for a proper go. Anyway, once Rally Japan was approved last year with only 106 SS kms and only 16kms were added this year, one can honestly wonder if it will ever meet the 300 SS kms distance. It’s a fair doubt, not a criticism.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Østberg in NZ interview:
"I also hope still being in the Citroen system increase my (WRC) chances.”
https://t.co/x2cqZFoK4o?amp=1
That's what Craig Breen thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
How did that work out for him?
Ostberg means he is still driving for Citroen (in WRC2-Pro)...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Breen is out there competing in European rallies to keep him in the eye.
2019 San Remo:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D38t0iYW0AAn0GF.jpg
Well, then he should be way ahead...
Ostberg is still inside the Citroen camp though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Breen way ahead of the italians... I meant.
Because he's paying to be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Same as he was last year.
Didn't help him then, did it? Why would it help now?
As I recall, Ostberg didn´t pay anything to drive Citroen C3 WRC. Didn´t get paid either.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
2nd place o/a in Rally Finland wasn´t good enough for you?
I never said it wasn't good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It just clearly wasn't enough for Citroen - hence why he's out of a drive. Craig too....
Oh, and for sure he paid. That's why there were PMI logos on the car...
I think Breen is doing well in Italy compared with Paddon in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
That said as a point scorer in 3rd car Østberg is clearly a better candidate for non - tarmac rallies in the Citroen.
PMI paid Mads' salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
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I would believe that it was only Mads' salary, if PMI's logo would had not been so prominent on the car. On the sides it is as big as Abu Dhabi... Not to mention four logos on the front bumper, four on the front wings. And something on the rear hatch, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Breen won Rallye San Remo.
Hopefully he'll get back in the WRC in 2020...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC