For a tarmac round it is quite slippery and roads are very narrow. Very spectacular.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
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For a tarmac round it is quite slippery and roads are very narrow. Very spectacular.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I agree. I don't really class Monte as a true Tarmac test. There should be one/two earlier in the season - to break up the dry, dusty gravel events. And more chances to see the crowd pleasing R-GT cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It's a bit early to start a seperate thread about it. Does anyone know what will happen with Rally Italy next year? Some rumors are that it will stay in Sardinia, others say it could be in San Remo again etc? Anyone who knows? Sardinia or San Remo? If in Sardinia, Alghero or Olbia?
Corsica and San Remo would be so good...
In 2015 the world will stay in Sardinia. In Sanremo han enthusiasts implemented a collect signatures, to try to bring the race there. But it is a collection that has nothing to do with who organizes the San Remo and the ACI. Today the Rallye Sanremo doesn't have the money to organize a CIR (700-800 ' 000 euros), for a WRC it takes at least 2'000'000 €???
Not to mention that lacking roads, places for the service and especially the gravel.
Every year it's the same story, I think Sanremo is not even close to be back as WRC round. It'll be in Sardinia like always, don't know about the location though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Probability Alghero
Why is San Remo so far away from making a comeback? Is it all about money?Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Welcome to earth... it is a nice place to be and the air is breathable... some of the inhabitants are a bit wacky but if you are lucky will not not meet many of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Life span is around 70-80 years for your species so plan ahead...
Mostly yes, but not only. There are also reasons about lack of roads and organization, but I don't know this details so I can't tell you more. This year we even risked to don't have a Sanremo Rally. In 2015 it will count again only for Italian championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
1980 1000 Lakes Rally counted to ERC too: http://ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=...kes-Rally-1980
Why not? Rally will be organized to ERC, so the difference on costs will be less than a completely new event. WRC crews are not so much like in the past. And we can see, f.e. ERC event winner winning WRC2 ;)
And of course Eurosport wouldn't make a problem if their current season-finale becomes the small "side-event" of a WRC-round...
That's stupid idea which is profitable only for event organizer but for nobody else (even for them it must be a nightmare to deal with two promoters in the same time). Think about that again and You must find out why it's nonsense. Here is a small hint for start... "winner takes it all".Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
EDIT: Tom was faster...
So what is better? New event like Brazil, China,...? Or other location on France, and where?
Don't act like there was not enough events to choose from ;)
France is full of amazing roads better than in Alsace region, all there's needed is some financial support. Also, if France would be out, wouldn't it make some place for the Acropolis Rally? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Nice idea, but where would the Acropolis organisers find the money?
Holding two tarmac events so close to each other geographically and almost identical in character makes absolutely no sense.
We have enough money to organize a major fia event and this year the money will go for erc,if fia will say to us to organize the rally on the wrc calendar no problem,but the calendar for erc had already been finalized so its imposible for this year,but yes for the future.
Organizing ERC and WRC event requires reasonably different money. I don't know how the situation in Greece is but if You can organize ERC it doesn't automatically mean You can do WRC.
Wasn't there some news article shortly after the release of the 2014 WRC calendar where the organizer of the Acropolis Rally said that the financial funding of the event was no issue? A bit similar story like Madeira in ERC/IRC a couple of years ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Frankly I have no idea what they said and even lesser idea if what they said was true.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
If you see the current situation in Greece, when it comes to everything really, from society to sports and every day people, then you would understand a lot of things and you would not ask such questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Toni Gardemeister just tweeted he would drive again, but didn't give any details, but pretty sure it will be rallying and not rally-raid.
probably in his BMW.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
The 50th Arctic Rally is coming up in Rovaniemi?, Finland.
LOL... worthless...Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
its a shame there's no safari rally anymore
I put my money on Polo any timeQuote:
Originally Posted by andyone
It is very easy - Safar Rally was very, very expensive for everybody. Rally cars used there were completely different from other events. And in this days it is nonsense to build one special car for only one rally...Quote:
Originally Posted by cardy
Yeah, none of those drivers are even close to the "greatest driver of all times" (sic).Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
But what does it mean? With modern technology they fear a real challenge. We should have one round. In Africa. its world rally Championship not European rally championship. just my opinion though ,so I can go see wrc before I die
the Safari Rally as wel as Ivory Coast Rally were on public roads as I recall, impossible in 21st century; let alone to organize a state of the art WC rally with the existing African infra stucture would be very very difficult.
I don't like the attitude here of the old rally heroes compared with the ones we have today, making comparisons with 10 to 20 years difference is impossible and waste of time. Respect for the old heroes and a healthy look at the future suits me better.
I say the Polo-tank can cope with the african terrain with no further modifications :D
It's not difficult to run a WRC event in South Africa, we have the infrastructure, the problem is our candidate events are always badly organised because certain individuals who put themselves into positions of power mess the organisors around and cause the event to be a complete flop. The recent attempt in 2012 was a complete shambles because of their interference and I know that because I have close ties to the organising committee. They forced the event to go to an area that had never been used in rallying before and blocked off the local townships - no surprise then that security was impossible on the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ounin
We have some very good stages around the Durban area that could run a WRC easily with the current cars (our S2000 & S1600 cars handle it just fine and most of them are standard from Europe) and make it a great event. I do know that the FIA wanted an "African-looking" event which our sugarcane fields and forests don't really look like but if everyone left the organisers alone to make the event the best that they can according to what we have then it's possible to do a great event.
Apart from that, safari was an event where luck was a far more important factor than driving to win it, it would be nice to have it back, but that badly photoshopped poster is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Yeah, one day close to the Dragon mountains with remote service in Pietermaritzburg and next days North from Durban (from Hlimbitwa river until Hluhluwe-Imfolozi Game Reserve). Very nice roads apart from a few rough sections on the mountains. I explored many of those roads with small rental car (Toyota Corolla) back in April :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce D
When it's tough You need a bit of luck that's true. Strong car can help You a lot, bit not all the time. Mastering the environmental difficulties is the character what is required to win a Safari and that is something special. You can't blame only the lack of luck jumping into ditch crossing the road at full speed isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I agree though it not very safe Rally to run. Pity....
I know what you mean I just always liked the rally had a certain feel to it and always drama, but as you say finance has to over rule sentiment in these tough timesQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto