How you can make such statements in English as bad as that and expect to be taken seriously, I simply cannot imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight
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How you can make such statements in English as bad as that and expect to be taken seriously, I simply cannot imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight
Erm Bolton midnight. I was referring to the reliability of more modern fiats
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Actually Daniel I think you missed the tone.
I think it needs far more exclamation points !!!!! and BIGGER letters and maybe an imbedded version of Monty Pythons Drill Instructors so we have the screeching rising pitch in the voice as he's outraged more and more alternating with the indecipherable grumbling....
Try that, would ya? (don't know how but give it a go, eh)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-2168107.htmlQuote:
Cameron has managed to conjure a narrative where this was all the result of "big government" doing "too much". It took footwork of such genius that it makes Fred Astaire look like Ann Widdecombe, but he has managed it for long enough to sound plausible to some.
Many of those foreign car makers having manufacturing bases in the UK commissioning contracts from British suppliers which were worst hit by the credit crunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight
The British suppliers would have been decimated had it not been for the scrappage schemes both in the UK and on the continent, but since they aren't names you'd recognise I guess they don't matter even if they employ more people than the car manufacturers do in the UK.
Well,just how many parts on the average car are made in the UK?
I repair and order lots of replacement parts that are labelled OE (Original Equipment) and the very largest majority are made in anywhere but the UK.
Bosch,Michelin,Bridgestone,NGK,Nippon,and now more and more components are being made in Korea,China,Portugal,Spain,Slovenia ,Slovakia,etc
all due to the fact that labour costs in the UK are too costly.
Quite a few actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by driveace
Most car manufacturers will buy in entire subsystems from suppliers to screw together to make the car with the vast majority of parts in a single car not built by the maker itself. Many of those parts are built in Britain and the supply industry here employs far more people than the car makers themselves.
Also unlike the car makers these supply manufacturers are often small to medium sized and don't have the luxury of a large cashpile to tide them over.
Therefore the drop in demand with the credit crunch linked with the refusal of banks to loan these companies bridging loans almost wiped them out. The scrappage scheme warded that off.
The other thing about the scrappage scheme was that it barely cost the taxpayer a penny in the UK. Of the 2k given half was supplied by the car makers and the remaining 1k by the government, but the VAT on the average car paid to the state was higher than the money stumped up by the government anyway. It paid for itself.
Please don't bring facts into this Dylan......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
I tried this before and it didn't work because people simply don't want to accept that Labour did something good.
Purchase price for our Fiat 500 = £10,720
VAT component of said car (VAT rate was 15%) = £1398
Govt scrappage contribution = £1000
Net profit to govt = £398
But hey whatever :D In some ways I'd rather that people like Bolton Midnight believed that an immigrant like myself had got his hands on 2k of his hard earned tax money and sent it away to Poland never to be seen again :rotflmao: It's far funnier than seeing that the Labour govt actually did something intelligent to stimulate the economy and keep manufacturing jobs in the UK.
Facts can be a bit inconvenient at times can't they :p : For example: Britain's debt at the outset of the current economic crisis was lower than it was under the Conservatives in 1997.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Funny that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Oh well it took a long time for the Conservitardem's to get in because they were **** and when they inevitably **** it up it'll just take longer for the next Conservitard government to get in. So it's not all bad.