The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

And lets be honest, Kimi is the only Ferrari driver to be on the podium this year on merit (Monaco), not helped by moving chicane Heikki.

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How exactly was Massa's podium helped by HK in Germany? Rosberg started from P15 and if anything, he should have benefitted even more from Heikki. Barrichello was driving in front of Heikki and pulling away, so if anything, benefitted from Heikki as well. Etc. And I don't recall any retirements helping Massa to achieve this podium, so it was pretty much achieved on merit.

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But generally, this so-called "Ferrari fans thread" seems to be quite useless as the so-called 'Ferrari fans' are mostly concentrated on "my driver is better than your's" debate. Clear lack of team spirit and concentration on team issues here. We may better rename it as a Massa vs Räikkönen thread. :p :

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Originally Posted by jens

How exactly was Massa's podium helped by HK in Germany? Rosberg started from P15 and if anything, he should have benefitted even more from Heikki. Barrichello was driving in front of Heikki and pulling away, so if anything, benefitted from Heikki as well. Etc. And I don't recall any retirements helping Massa to achieve this podium, so it was pretty much achieved on merit.
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Massa had quite a long first stint and was definitely helped by the fact that Heikki held up everybody except the first three. Anyway he drove a good race, better than Rosberg ,it's just that Kimi's third place at Monaco was just due to pure speed.

Let's stop this, shall we? I agree with you on what you said about this thread, and IMO most people prefer individual drivers not teams, whatever they claim. I like the Finn driving the Ferrari and I like Italy and therefore Ferrari as well, so I'm going to continue writing here.

Re 3rd car for Ferrari...how could the smaller teams agree to this? They have a hard enough time getting into a points-paying position as it is. Unless F1 grants points up to 12th position instead of 8th I can't see this happening.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Let's stop this, shall we?

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I agree, it will save me the cringing from reading your posts trying to put Massa's podium down to anything but his speed.

Why don't you just start a Kimi fanboys thread where you can bash Massa as much as you want. I promise I won't ever read it let alone post there. Just let us support Ferrari with both drivers in this thread.

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Originally Posted by edv

Re 3rd car for Ferrari...how could the smaller teams agree to this? They have a hard enough time getting into a points-paying position as it is. Unless F1 grants points up to 12th position instead of 8th I can't see this happening.

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Not easy at all. They should maybe say that only 2 of the 3 cars will be eligible for scoring points and positions, but I doubt this will be enough.

with the third car
i think when bernie ecclestone was talking about this a few years ago they had to nominate the 2 drivers to score the points be for the gp

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

with the third car
i think when bernie ecclestone was talking about this a few years ago they had to nominate the 2 drivers to score the points be for the gp

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I think you are right, I wish my memory was a bit better though.

Felipe Massa said in an interview that his eyesight in the left eye is not yet 100%. He also said that Kimi hasn't called him since the accident and it was to be expected because that's the way he is.



http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...2009/08/933657

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...2009/08/933677

Bye bye 3rd place in the Constructors championship.
Bot Alguersuari and Grosjean are doing better than the driver who says he drove some 150000 kms in the last 10 years in a F1 car. :\

I'm deeply disappointed with the management of the team right now.
3rd in the constructors championship is turning into a pipe dream with the use of BADoer. :(