M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

M-Sport officially announced full-time season for Loubet (EDIT: announced before sorry)
I’m not sure about his potential as he has a lot of experience on WRC events and his current hype is a bit driven by the failures of other M-Sport drivers last year, but we cannot criticize to see a young driver with a full-time seat in the current situation.
So good to see him with a good opportunity and in the end, except maybe Lindholm, there is not really another youngsters deserving more the opportunity.
Considering the announcement, probably some backing brought by him.

A bit surprised about Greensmith still not being announced. And if the rumors about Toyota were true? Maybe is he reluctant about the «*All for Ott*» policy?
Or just the contract terms being discussed?

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Originally Posted by Danny0405

A bit surprised about Greensmith still not being announced. And if the rumors about Toyota were true? Maybe is he reluctant about the «*All for Ott*» policy?
Or just the contract terms being discussed?

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Possibly due to Tanak and Loubet the price to be named official M-Sport driver has rosen and that has put some negotiations on hold?

Great news for Loubet and a reward for the improvement he showed in 2022.

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Originally Posted by Danny0405

A bit surprised about Greensmith still not being announced. And if the rumors about Toyota were true? Maybe is he reluctant about the «*All for Ott*» policy?
Or just the contract terms being discussed?

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Isn't the case with Greensmith rather than if he has the funds to drive. As I have understood, he has been a pay driver and if he has some funds I think M-Sport will welcome him with open hands. Or has the price for pay drive also risen? Or is Greensmith trying to have the Yaris?

Really happy for Loubet though :)

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Originally Posted by flat_right

Isn't the case with Greensmith rather than if he has the funds to drive. As I have understood, he has been a pay driver and if he has some funds I think M-Sport will welcome him with open hands. Or has the price for pay drive also risen? Or is Greensmith trying to have the Yaris?

Really happy for Loubet though :)

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I think Greensmith funds his whole campaign, it isn't even like he brings some partners or partial payment. He effectively does what someone like Bertelli did. So if he can't pay for the car he won't be in the team

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Originally Posted by er88

I think Greensmith funds his whole campaign, it isn't even like he brings some partners or partial payment. He effectively does what someone like Bertelli did. So if he can't pay for the car he won't be in the team

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Well, for sure, considering his poor season, Greensmith has to pay for everything (whereas Loubet probably pays partially only). But except if the family has cut the spendings (possible), I don’t think it’s a big issue.
I would more see a question about being the guarantee to make it in good conditions; it’s a bit of difference between Bertelli and Greensmith there; I don’t think Bertelli ever thought he could compete for podiums at least (while Greensmith, even if he needs favorable conditions, could)
With the «*all for Ott*» strategy and limited testing days (and probably a lot taken by Ott), maybe there is a point about this and apparently, the testing will be simpler for privateer. So if he can pay for the Toyota, he may do less rallies but in better conditions maybe (with even more road position advantages).

Loubet’s situation is different; he has some good backing but not something that would allow sensibly to pay the Toyota which is very expensive so it is M-Sport or nothing.

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Originally Posted by er88

I think Greensmith funds his whole campaign, it isn't even like he brings some partners or partial payment. He effectively does what someone like Bertelli did. So if he can't pay for the car he won't be in the team

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I'd expect some discount when fulfilling m-sport's obligations, Bertelli never did drive 'M' like Gus. Would expect Loubet to have done the same for 2023.

so RedBull isn't on the cars anymore..? As neither Tanak or Loubet(+ Gus) aren't RB athletes..

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Originally Posted by TypeR

so RedBull isn't on the cars anymore..? As neither Tanak or Loubet(+ Gus) aren't RB athletes..

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If Loeb isn't there next season, that seems to be the case, shame, loved their livery.

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Originally Posted by seb_sh

That's not how corporate budgets work.

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That’s completely missing the point.