New stage names for gravel stages, but looks like they are using the same roads, reversed with some changes. Pesells and Gandesa were used in 2014. Now there's more weight on gravel than last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
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New stage names for gravel stages, but looks like they are using the same roads, reversed with some changes. Pesells and Gandesa were used in 2014. Now there's more weight on gravel than last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Pesells has been a while.
Rumours about Paddon in C3 in Finland?
Not a long ago it was said that Hyundai would send four cars in the field for Finlandia but then they said that this is not true.
Quite logical if they want to bring Sordo in. Maybe they want to get rid of Paddon? I don't know
Drinking ?
kid... stop posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
I'm NOT asking you. I'm asking someone who have more details about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
@ESTR, not for joking now. Are you in some way related to "Barreis" who used this forum quite frequently some time ago?
Hyundai entering four cars to Finland was an admin error. Paddon is entered and Sordo not, like planned.
Why C3?Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
Or do you mean i20 R5?
It is circling around about Paddon and Citroen. But I don't know how they could allow to drive for different manu while signed for the whole season. Maybe it's just because they start following him and people assume it's something like that.
I'm curious especially because I think that this will not be a good move if it's really happen. Seems that he is start to adapt to this new i20, little late but if he go away he will need to start all over again.
Paddon is most likely bringing money from Hyundai NZ, so he is not getting paid. He might get a free drive with Citroen. He knows his days are most likely numbered at Hyundai, but to be honest, it will be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Also, Finland wouldn't be the place to go to to learn the car... putting it in the trees will end his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
Paddon for sure is getting paid - and well paid - at Hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
To think any other way is naive.
by the importer maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
I'm sure he gets money from them as well, but for sure he's on a nice contract from Hyundai motorsport, too.
Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps Hyundai have developed some more transmission options for their car than were available last year and that they may have recently introduced them which is why Sordo, Mikklesen and Paddon now find the car more drivable and that is why Neuville is more consistent.
In the last days in the Assistance Park of Alghero, home of the Rally Italia Sardegna 2018, rumors have emerged regarding Citroen's interest in Hayden Paddon. The French team would have identified the New Zealander as the ideal driver to replace the fired Kris Meeke.
The choice of what will become the first pilot of the Satory team will be made in the next two weeks, as stated by Citroen team principal, Pierre Budar. In the last few hours Michel Nandan, Hyundai Motorsport team principal, put a brake on the track that would have brought Paddon to Satory.
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Citroen looks to the future: replacing Meeke is looking for Hayden Paddon
The Alzenau team has unveiled at Motorsport.com that it has no intention of depriving itself of Paddon during this season. "What I can say is that all our drivers are under the Hyundai contract, so it seems a bit difficult for me to think we can let Paddon go."
Nandan has added to the price, saying that he will not let Hayden go even if he were to ask if he could go away to play all the remaining races of the season: "Other teams may have interest in Paddon, but it's a bit difficult that He could go away, and even if he were to ask him to leave, it would be impossible. "
Uncertainty about the number of pilots for 2019
If Nandan was categorical for 2018, the situation is different for the next season. It is certain that the Korean team will not be able to deploy 4 official cars for all 4 drivers for reasons related to the budget.
"We still have to make a decision about our drivers for the next season, but what we are sure is that we will not be able to field four cars.
It is so interesting to see which direction Nandan and members will take: confirm all 4 drivers (remembering that Andreas Mikkelsen can claim a contract for next season) or choose three for the same number of cars?
"We will not go beyond the 3 cars and we still do not know if we will continue with a management of 4 drivers for three cars or if we will make the conventional 3 cars with as many drivers".
https://ch-it.motorsport.com/wrc/new..._content=ch_it
Thank god..
Now next thing.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...l-jumps-banned
It says 'drivers' when only two drivers complain and guess, one of those two is Ogier... Ott clearly break the car but that's the part of championship that you need to control jumps, am I right?
no, you are wrong again like always
so Paddon to Citroen in 2019 rumours starting already, didnt take a long time, eh?
Like Nandan says they cant afford 4 cars for a full season. So either Sordo retires or Paddon goes to Citroen then.
i think Sordo said somewhere that he isnt interested anymore doing a full season?
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Hum it will be interesting at the end of the season, to see how Hyundai will manage in terms of championship in case of last rally decider.
What is more important for them, manufacturer or driver? We may see the same situation as Loeb / Citroen in 2003.
Food for thoughts.
The summer break is already too long...
canada... the drivers is more important, plus Fords lineup is nothing for the manufacturers, they only have Mr kaiser the manufacturers one will be over soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
I know how little you value Toyota, but i wouldn't rule out the manufacturer yet... The hyundai is not the most reliable either (Mikkelsen), and toyota have some strong rallys comming (Finland my guess is on a 1-2 toyota, tarmac they will be strong too).Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Yes Toyota could easily go 1-2-3 in Finland with the unlimited testing next to their HQ there. Almost did that least year with Lappi driving there first time in WRC and with Haninen.
Then again they can totally fail like Citroen did this year in Corsica.
For Suninen and Evans Finland was also probably their strongest rally last year (discounting DMACK).
Hyundai didn't had the pace, Paddon's comeback isn't really working well and Mikkelsen has usually been weak in Finland.
If Hyundai drops 30 points there it might be tough for manu title.
Germany depends on whether they sort tarmac car, Spain even more so. I don't expect miracles. GB and Australia were both strong from Hyundai last year. Turkey might end as an interesting joker.
Not a chance, spoke to both Paddon and Marshall. Not interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
If Paddon is not interested, they are unlikely to get any top line driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Ogier could go there, but could end up like Alonso in a McLaren.
At least when Meeke was there, they could say the car was was quick,
Its looking more like it was driver that was quick, and the car not.
What Nevilles current contract status with Hyundai?
Honestly feel Citroen will end up PAYG rally team.
He's only had 3 WRC rallies so far this year - 5th in Sweden (just pipped for 4th by Lappi in powerstage IIRC), 4th in Sardinia and was leading in Portugal when he crashed avoiding a rock on the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
While its not quite the podiums/wins he's wanting, I don't think its bad at all considering the lack of time in the car? I don't think he even got to test before Sardinia.
It will be interesting to see how he goes in Finland, he is usually fast there but was pretty unlucky last year with rocks.
I also think Paddon is lacking the pace we would expect. In Sardegna he was taking it easy because of the Portugal injuries?
He was winning stages and leading the rally at times in Portugal so obviously not lacking pace there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
He did seem to be taking it gently on the jumps and rougher stuff in Sardegna which may be injury related, but also Friday conditions weren't good for his late road position with the mud, and then 3rd on the road when it was dry on Saturday probably wasn't likely to produce top times either - just the way it goes with conditions sometimes. A few different factors, small amounts of time that all add up.
German rally website suggests 14 events likely in 2019 #WRC calendar.
Test days for each team could be reduced from 55 days to 30 days per year https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/ar...ttage-geplant/
Why are the regulations so anti-testing in the top end of the motorsport? The teams would spend that money anyway trying to find the extra advantage. Be it simulations or whatever ways they'll find
Yeah like citroen does have any at all? hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Budar said for next year Citroen will have a 1st driver capable winning on any surface.
I can't see Neuville or Tanak going there, and don't see why Ogier would go back unless he's given a mammoth salary and is really eyeing to win the championship with 3 different manufacturers.
Paddon is not a driver who can win on any surface.
Paddon is not "winning driver". He is on same level like Breen or Ostberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I think ostberg is a little bit worse compared to the other two you mentioned,plus he has already reached his full potential.The other two i think have space for improvement.
Breen probably Paddon, I'm not sure. It's quite amazing that we have so many bipolar drivers in Paddon, Mikkelsen, Ostberg, Latvala and Evans at the moment. One moment they look proper quick, the next you're really disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
i have missed this, where did he say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Maybe Lappi is the man. Then they get a man on his way up. If they want a more secure solution, Latvala as a clear number one, is still a winner imo.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by er88
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3t..._5b1cd9177.jpg
Because the FIA is run by worthless economic illiterates and they don't understand that testing is the cheapest way to improve your car. So they continually fall prey to the Toto Wolffs and Jost Capitos of the world, who understand economics very well, and understand that the more complicated regulations and arbitrary constraints they add to the rule book, the more expensive it makes every percent of performance gain. And that means they can outperform other teams by outspending them rather than out-innovating them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
And if you can benefit yourself and screw over your competitors while appearing to care about the plight of the poorer teams, well, that's just gravy on top.
Latvala: Citroen wrong to drop Meeke from WRC squad mid-season
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...medium=twitter