lot of norwegian hearsay going on here ...
Petter did a fantastic season and the difference between those cars are known to few people who run Citroen team. Everything else seems to be speculation.
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lot of norwegian hearsay going on here ...
Petter did a fantastic season and the difference between those cars are known to few people who run Citroen team. Everything else seems to be speculation.
Couldn't agree more. Petter had a blast and only a win could have made his season better. I personally was glad to see him back. I mean, I never liked to see him jumping on a bonnet but it was nice to see him enjoying rally again :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I wonder how much Lobe was paid to say such.
payed by who ??Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Kittens with fluffy mittens...
I think it is just funny that he (Loeb) had to ask, and that he has to tell us that there is "not much differences" :)
Yes, I got the same feeling here. Petter has never been a favourite of mine but I surely was very happy to see him posting top times again and thus enjoying rallying again.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
same here :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Petter did have a great season and here are some statistics to show it. These numbers have been copied from juwra.com
Podiums per driver:
Loeb 12
P. Solberg 8
Latvala 6
Ogier 6
Sordo 5
Mikko 2
Stage wins per driver:
Loeb 96
P. Solberg 51
Ogeir 37
Latvala 26
Sordo 25
Hirvonen 16
Also, with the old points system, Petter would have become second in the championship. With his resources, it is nothing less than phenomenal!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaanus
If he doesn't get a ride next year, it will be tragic for the sport.
I agree on the last part, on his brilliant outings and efforts as a privateer but in all fairness any different point scoring system giving him a 2nd overall would have been weird as Latvala scored two wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis
This is one of the points of the new system. :)
Now we are talking :up:
Crash.net's Top 10 World Rally drivers' of 2010:
1. Petter Solberg
2. Sebastien Loeb
3. Sebastien Ogier
4. Jari-Matti Latvala
5. Dani Sordo
6. Mikko Hirvonen
7. Juho Hanninen (Wild Card)
8. Kimi Raikkonen
9. Armindo Araujo (Wild Card)
10. Xavier Pons (Wild Card)
http://www.crash.net/World+Rally/new...p_ten_1st.html
And same here :up: :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
LOL... great listQuote:
Originally Posted by Viking
so Solberg 1st ...lol
Kimi 8th.... lol
pons 10th....lol
and Kopecky, meeke, ketomaa, buffier not even mentioned...
stupidity should be a terminal disease...
Sorry, but this is nonsense. Gearbox of C4 can't be so ridiculously expensive when the one from Impreza S12B cost some 50 thousand Euro.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
NOT, these lists are only created so people will post them and the other people will say "WTF?!?!?! That's BS!!!!!!" and they get more page views ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
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Originally Posted by Viking
Very funny list made by very funny people ;)
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Originally Posted by Daniel
These list are made especially for people such as NOT and Daniel and still others here on the forum!!! :rolleyes:
Considering I don't read crash.net your trolling is quite funny :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
I love that list, Go Solberg :p :
Nobody read crash.netQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Anyone has some more info about the Xsara Solberg uses for showdriving? Today it certainly sounded quite unlike a WRC car. Suppose he removed restrictor, fitted some extra short gearbox and remapped the engine? How much HP/Nm does it have now?
an article about this years solberg motorshow:
http://www.vg.no/sport/motor/artikke...artid=10019607
I think Prodrive designed the Subarus to be cheaper to run so they could sell them to privateers afterwards. Citroen don't give a sh.... about privateers so they just make they parts as well as they can regardless of cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The subaru's from 2005 onwards were very expensive to maintain , parts and you will always need an engineer even if it is not in contract with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurotech
@ Mirek The subaru gearboxes are like 70-85 k pounds to buy though .
Petter keeping an C4 for Pikes Peak??
http://latulasport.es/index.php/wrc/...ikes-peak.html
Thought it was the Xsara that is planned for Pikes Peak........maybe its the C4 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
How may C4's does he own 2?
1.5 C4s? That Xsara is just about ready for Pikes Peak, it's a mean machine!!
Maybe this could be very good. Citroen has proven to be outstanding at higher altitude. The Fords struggled big time with the altitude, last year.
Engine for Pikes Peak would be a completely different thing, should double power!!
Yeah, C4 with normal engine would be among the last cars in Pikes Peak. Those cars there are just monsters!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
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Originally Posted by Gard
The Ford's struggled with the whole set up.
Pikes Peak is its own beast.
If Petter is serious the car will hit the US ports in May so he can do some pre-event testing on the mountain to get the set up right.
Pikes Peak is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Look about 3:min and 3:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKgeCQGu_ug
yeah it was in the old days...now a big part of it is tarmac
An anecdote from another Norwegian, Mr. Rallycross, Martin Schanche participated in 1984, this is copied from another forum - in a discussion about Michele Mouton:
She was already at the Pikes Peak in 1984 and won the Open Rally category, together with Fabrizia Pons in an Audi Sport quattro, but with some strange behaviour she was all but a likable person/woman for the Americans… (And in 1985 she went even more naughty!) However, "Mister Rallycross" Martin Schanche was there as well, with his by then quite new Ford Escort Mk3 4WD (with 560+bhp Zakspeed engine and the first ever Xtrac 4WD system). In practise he was much quicker than Mouton and the big Audi Sport team became really nervous. BTW, Schanche was alone, not even one mechanic with him, and had driven his Escort XR3 with the necessary lamps around and Norwegian licence plates on the road from the airport to Pikes Peak and after the event back to the airport again. After about 1/3 of the official race Schanche was clocked 11 seconds faster than Mouton – but only a little later got a puncture (front, right). He pressed on regardless to the finish and was hailed by the mad going commentator as the first racer ever to reach the Pikes Peak summit on three wheels – but his time was absolutely useless of course and the Rally class victory went to Mouton/Pons (Bill Brister was the overall winner that year).
Ah, Martin, you gave us quit some moments back in the 80's.
And after this next 2011 running it will be all tarmac by 2012Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I believe for next year only 1 mile of dirt.
He sure did, and also in the 90's and early 00's-- And even in the late 70's....Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis