Wrc Rally Argentina 2013

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

but you never said somebody else was better than him anywhere, which is the same

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Plenty of times somebody else was faster or better than Loeb.But wasn t better overall.

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

yes because latvala was slower there and everywhere else. lower speed = no problems with staying on neat trajectory

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so he had to mantain a lower speed to avoid exits.Understeer problems also Loeb had at 1st day,but didn t bin it,even he was back.Thats the difference between them.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Plenty of times somebody else was faster or better than Loeb.But wasn t better overall.

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I should better try to argue with a CD player

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so he had to mantain a lower speed to avoid exits.Understeer problems also Loeb had at 1st day,but didn t bin it,even he was back.Thats the difference between them.

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loeb was having constant understeer everywhere and adapted to it; Ogier had a sudden mechanical failure at a critical moment

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Understeer problems also Loeb had at 1st day,but didn t bin it,even he was back.Thats the difference between them.

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Well, Loeb went off 2 times yesterday, but had the luck not to loose much time. I'd say from the 2011 season we could see both Sebs were in a league of their own. You don't win 5 rallies in the same team with Loeb if you are not a great driver.

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Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Well, Loeb went off 2 times yesterday

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3 actually - 3rd on the same corner on the repeating stage, only 1 second lost this time.

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Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Well, Loeb went off 2 times yesterday, but had the luck not to loose much time. I'd say from the 2011 season we could see both Sebs were in a league of their own. You don't win 5 rallies in the same team with Loeb if you are not a great driver.

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nobody said that he isn t a great driver.Some others claim that Loeb isn t great,but he is lucky and etc nonsens

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Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Well, Loeb went off 2 times yesterday, but had the luck not to loose much time. I'd say from the 2011 season we could see both Sebs were in a league of their own. You don't win 5 rallies in the same team with Loeb if you are not a great driver.

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yes i know Loeb is lucky.Very lucky 8 continious years at Argentina specifically.lol

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

I should better try to argue with a CD player

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to argue about Loeb is lucky? even a cd player wouldn t agree.

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

loeb was having constant understeer everywhere and adapted to it; Ogier had a sudden mechanical failure at a critical moment

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thats false,read again makinen fan post some pages back.

Loeb is a great driver, for sure one of the best of all times, but you can't deny the fact he hasn't been the best driver this weekend. He just got lucky with Ogier's troubles, otherwise he would've ended 2nd.

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Originally Posted by Francis44

What some of you fail to see is that Ogier is much better than Loeb was when they were at the same phase of their career :) .

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I am not sure why you say that

Ogier has ran 42 rallies in a WRC, 10 wins and 7 other podium

for Loeb, 42 WRC rally spans from 2001 San Remo to 2005 Sweden: 11 wins, 12 other podium (note that after 2005 Loeb started to crush everything: in the next 10 Rallies up to 2005 GB, he won 7 of them)