[ERC] Sata Rallye Acores

Short onboard compilation of Jan and Pavel from today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MpO2...layer_embedded

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

What kind of rally is this? No possibiltiy to make proper pacenotes. No visibility on stages when race is on? Just dangerous I think. No sporting measures out of this race. Only the luckiest driver wins, together with some amount of experience.

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Isn't rallying meant to be a challenge? Come on man, a bit of rain, a few patches of fog, certainly makes things more interesting and it's good to see how crews handle such conditions.

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Originally Posted by Luis Pacheco

But to compete in the Azorian events he has to take the plane to go to the other islands. :)

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He could travel by boat. I have readed this some months ago... Sell the fish by the price that i bought :)

Ricardo Moura has been awarded with the Colin McRae ERC Flat Out Trophy at the event. Well-deserved. I hope to see this great driver on more events of the ERC.

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What a luck in his unluck for Stéphane Lefèbvre, who finally took 2nd place in 2WDs class(and 16th overall) :)

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Originally Posted by noel157

And as said good P2 from Breen. Both had punctures I think but the best driver won and Breen has further enhanced his knowledge, experience and reputation.

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Is it really?

He is supposedly a works driver (although his dads bank manager would probably disagree) and has probably done more miles in a rallycar in the last 4 years than pretty much any driver in the world.
Beaten comprehensively again by Kopecky (who had never won on gravel), (until he crashed) a driver on his 2nd gravel rally, and almost beaten by a driver on his first s2000 outing and claims he is delighted to get experience.

Never heard his Irish predecessor coming out with that building experience for next year nonsense!
Would Meeke have been happy if he had just put in Breens performance? NO
Then again, Kris was getting paid to drive the car, rather than pretending to get paid.....

So no visibiltiy doesn´t count when making pacenotes?? I think the discussions of safety on this forum has come to lovest level when not agrred about the dangerous situstion most of the drivers had driving in total unvisibilty. Ask Kubica.

The least a driver could ask of is to make proper pacenotes. If that´s done it would be less problems doing stages in fog. Remembering Burns in GB around 1997-98 beating CMR over a minute on foggy stage.

You implied that it was a case of whole rally which is not true at all. Anyway if the rally was just a lottery without any sporting value like You said we would hardly have third victory for the same man and third second place for the same man out of four events (when both of them skipped one).

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Originally Posted by catty

Is it really?

He is supposedly a works driver (although his dads bank manager would probably disagree) and has probably done more miles in a rallycar in the last 4 years than pretty much any driver in the world.
Beaten comprehensively again by Kopecky (who had never won on gravel), (until he crashed) a driver on his 2nd gravel rally, and almost beaten by a driver on his first s2000 outing and claims he is delighted to get experience.

Never heard his Irish predecessor coming out with that building experience for next year nonsense!
Would Meeke have been happy if he had just put in Breens performance? NO
Then again, Kris was getting paid to drive the car, rather than pretending to get paid.....

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What utter nonsense !

1. Kopecky may not have won on gravel but he has huge experience and was usually only beaten by Hanninen
2. Breen is 9 years younger and has little gravel experience himself, being brought up on tarmac rallying in Ireland
3. He also has no gravel experience in the 207 and this was his first time in Azores and in horrendous conditions
4. The 207 is so old and is clearly inferior to the Skoda, not to mention out-gunned by the RRC Citroen & Ford
5. This is Breen's first season in IRC/ERC

And he should what ? Win the rally and the Championship ??

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Originally Posted by Mirek

You implied that it was a case of whole rally which is not true at all. Anyway if the rally was just a lottery without any sporting value like You said we would hardly have third victory for the same man and third second place for the same man out of four events (when both of them skipped one).

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Of course it affects the whole rally in the end.

This is not the WRC forum but I remember almost everyone crying for the bad conditions agreeing that MC should cancel the last stages because of that. That time the drivers had pacenotes which was correct, which is the difference. They should have completed the rally (MC) driving all the stages. No problem for me.

And Sweden - yes - tha rally on ice - dangerous? No - only with tarmac tires.