Don't getme wrong it would have been painful. However I belive the recovery would have happened quickly as well. As it is we haven't really even started to recover yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
See the depression of 1920
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Don't getme wrong it would have been painful. However I belive the recovery would have happened quickly as well. As it is we haven't really even started to recover yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
See the depression of 1920
No I'm asking an honest question. How much do you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
You seem to be of the view that there is nothing between an unfettered free market and unfettered communism.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
How much of your own resources do I want? How can I answer that? I have no idea what you earn, for a start, or what your current tax burden is. Nor do I have any desire to know.
This is again where the term "sharing" is misunderstood or misused.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Sharing does not mean giving away part of your bank account or emptying half of your refrigerator.
It means allowing others the opportunity to also have money in their bank and food in their fridge. - and of course add to that proper health care and a fair and responsible deal when it comes to credit opportunities.
It doesn't mean paranoia.
Go on then, explain why the recovery would have happened quickly? Remember that the governments involved in the bailout have yet to pass the cost of that onto us, the taxpayers although depending on the country you live in they are just about to. Our economies have so far only received the benefits of the bailouts, yet our economies are still not recovering.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Originally Posted by Bob RiebeQuote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Person the the political base you are debating have the biased notion that Conservatives are of one narrow scope belief that fits only THEIR idea of what a conservative is.
If you do not fit in that biased idea they will just use the vacuous response of if you are a conservative tghen how can you say x, or not believe Y, or not....
You, Bob, fit exactly one of the stereotypes many of us Europeans have about Americans of your political persuasion. I'm genuinely not saying that as a cheap insult.
Pertaining to grammar: This computer which was the only one I had that had, had spell check,( it does not now, supposedly Best Buy reformatted it to origianal specs.) was less than a year old and just returned after getting a new hard drive.
Now what you see above was part of what was supposed to have been corrected in an edit I made. It was not corrected nor do I even have an idea how this construct was created.
Misspelling bizarre was my screw-up, but this is just plain bizarre. (This computer, outside of too many blue-screen warnings, that finally became terminal, was great before I sent it in, now it just ain't right anymore)
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That explains a lot.
Thank you.
Nor does it give the free-marketeers any justifiable right to accuse those who don't agree with them of getting a kick out of taking away their money.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
I haven't seen anyone actually propose some sort of middle ground here. All I've heard about is "fairness", income gaps, the rich are too rich, and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Let's say for the sake of argument that I make $350,000 a year (more than enough to fit Obama's definition of rich), I live just outside of New York City, and if you add up local, state, and federal taxes, I pay about 60% of my income in taxes. Is that enough? Note: these are not true of me, but they are representative
How do people in the US not have opportunity?Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
If it were down to personal preference I feel the state should limit itself to helping find potential buyers for failing businesses using its connections but should allow those that can't find buyers to collapse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Unfortunately in 2008 I can see that the result of letting all those financial institutions collapse would have been utter disaster hitting the private and public sectors alike extremely hard. I just don't see any other feasible option.