Should we be using winter tyres in the UK?

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Originally Posted by henners88

I'd say we've had about 20cm on average, but in places where the snow has drifted its up to my knee's. :)

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You mean like 25 cm?! :p ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Your video had this one of the suggested videos :D
[youtube]PApZm9-rwFc&NR=1[/youtube]

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This is j-u-s-t unbelievable. Why, why, WHY they keep on braking?

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Originally Posted by ioan

You mean like 25 cm?! :p ;)

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Are you suggesting that Henners is Bernie Ecclestone? :p

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Your video had this one of the suggested videos :D
[youtube]PApZm9-rwFc&NR=1[/youtube]

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:eek: :laugh:

No tyre can be sufficient in case the driver is an idiot...

OK! maybe the guy who put the chains on the front tyres of his Beamer was just trying to avoid this happening. :p :
I know this sounds crazy, but the Volvo 240 I used to own had these huge bumpers front and rear and they were mounted on shock absorbers. Now we know why. :D

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Originally Posted by Daniel

But as Donkey Jote (who works for a large and very reputable European tyre firm who make the tyres fitted to a good proportion of European cars when purchase) says, winter tyres are not just for the snow :) They're for low temperatures. During autumn when it starts to get cooler and is generally a bit damp I can feel a marked decrease in performance from my summer tyres (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A's which I feel offer very very good performance in the summer) and my little 1.2 Fiat 500 starts getting wheelspin which I personally don't feel is something such an underpowered car with 69bhp should do and it also starts to feel a bit vague through the corners and squirrely under hard braking. I'm not talking about driving in snow and ice here, I'm talking about a chilly day or a chilly day with damp roads.

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As the Economist said though, you know what will happen if the government starts pushing people to buy winter tyres because of the weather. The Daily Hate will run headlines like "Filthy Eurocrats force brave Brit drivers to fork out £400 a year on useless tyres". You just can't win...

Nope, you really can't. I certainly wouldn't go out without winter tyres in this sort of weather

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Nope, you really can't. I certainly wouldn't go out without winter tyres in this sort of weather

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Having seen the traffic conditions and how most cars on the road are affected, I'd rather not take my car out in that traffic. Some bugger could hit you (see above vid) while you are going nicely yourself.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

A couple of pictures from today.

I would img tag them but people run around screaming like you've sexually assaulted their goat when you upload anything bigger then a 10x10 pixel jpeg around these parts :p

Clicky! :)
http://oi51.tinypic.com/30hpjxs.jpg
http://oi53.tinypic.com/2i03tpx.jpg

Car was absolutely fine in those conditions :up:

Would have gone the whole way up the Llanberis Pass and over the Denbigh Moors but health and safety (Caroline) said no :p

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Caroline needs that sense of adventure! Looks like a decent snow, but nothing horrible by my standards. That said, I take it half the locals are acting like the world came to an end!

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Nope, you really can't. I certainly wouldn't go out without winter tyres in this sort of weather

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I would shock you with what you can get away with in this sort of weather. It can be done, just it shouldn't be done....

Buddy of mine drove his Dodge Dakota "Sport" pickup to Kingston, 2 hours east of here Saturday, and we went through snow squalls. The roads were greasy and then snow covered in spots....he has 235/r55 BF Goodrich T/A's..a very much a summer style all around tire...and he never had an issue. IN a PICKUP! I say he is nuts...but he has driven for 30 years and never had an accident. IT CAN be done...I just wish people would learn to handle snow.

That said, If own the pickup, winter tires on on that puppy in December.....