Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

The vote's over , guys .
Max won .

There wouldn't have been any discussion about fairness , and percentages , and corruption , if Max was out .
Most here would have cheered that justice was done .

That is my opinion , but closer to fact than most here will admit .


Of course , a few of us will breathe a sigh of relief that justice was , in fact , served here , and breathe another sigh , as we realize this tactic , perhaps in future , will not be seen as an option for such corporate coups .

And , since it was pointed out that Max was paying for the video , there is a theft charge involved as well .
Who will fall , if not Max ?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Of course , a few of us will breathe a sigh of relief that justice was , in fact , served here , and breathe another sigh , as we realize this tactic , perhaps in future , will not be seen as an option for such corporate coups .

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I don't quite get this. Are you suggesting that people within the FIA who wanted him out colluded in the newspaper sting?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Max won.

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I think that's the point. Max "won".

Quite what he has won, and others have lost, will unfold in the coming weeks & months.

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Originally Posted by ioan

You want to know it? Google it! After all you seem to believe that you are better and deserve more than a fellow Bulgarian. :rolleyes:

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Bulgaria is a small country, but is full with many drivers and passionate Formula One. Check the Turkish Grand Prix, the Bulgarian fans were thousands, maybe even more that the Turkish ones. Check our wonderful European Rally "Bulgaria". With the small amount of money our federation has, it makes wonders and our vote is no less important than the vote of a western country.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

The vote's over , guys .
Max won .

There wouldn't have been any discussion about fairness , and percentages , and corruption , if Max was out .

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Because British pro-McLaren media tries to satanize him and consider that it is appropriate to discriminate an old man about his sexual preferences!

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Because British pro-McLaren media tries to satanize him and consider that it is appropriate to discriminate an old man about his sexual preferences!

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Does this explain the way in which he has been castigated in media all over the world, then, including in Germany? Not everything comes down to some perceived bias.

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The chairman of the South African governing body of motorsport says he did not agree with the outcome of yesterday's confidence vote against FIA president Max Mosley and is considering joining the clubs contemplating withdrawing from the FIA.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67969

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Bulgaria is a small country, but is full with many drivers and passionate Formula One. Check the Turkish Grand Prix, the Bulgarian fans were thousands, maybe even more that the Turkish ones. Check our wonderful European Rally "Bulgaria". With the small amount of money our federation has, it makes wonders and our vote is no less important than the vote of a western country.

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Well, you have to wonder why Bulgaria is such a hot bed in this discussion.

In terms of size, it is 104th in the world at 111k km2 so pretty substantial with a population of 7,600k

Kazakhstan on the other hand is the 9th largest country in the world at 2,717k km2 but a population of only 15,000k

Both pretty large and just to keep Tazio happy for his Anglo comparison, it is 79th largest at 242k km2 and a population of 60,000k

Should they all get a single vote to reflect their status within the FIA?

How about the two smallest countries in the world? I think these demonstrate the point quite well.

1st, we have a cornerstone of Motorsport in Monaco. It has an area of just 1.95km2, is the 233rd largest (or second smallest if you prefer), country in the world and has a population of 33k. I would argue that they might be worth slightly more in their influence than that the Vatican which is 244th and smallest of countries with a population of 800 and a size of 0.44km2.

The way the FIA is structured makes the Eurovision Song Contest look credible :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

The way the FIA is structured makes the Eurovision Song Contest look credible :laugh:

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Can we get Mr Terry 'Moleskin slacks' Wogan's opinion on this - he is, after all, an expert on Eurocobblers. ;)

One thing to note here is the way in which the vote was also split not just along national lines, but also, to a large extent, between the motorsport federations whose delegates Mosley had tried to gather support from, and the motoring organisations he didn't lobby as extensively. Surely it's time to end the pretence of the FIA being anything other than the governing body of world motorsport, and forget about its more general motoring responsibilities, which could then be hived off to another body?