you got it! your turnQuote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
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you got it! your turnQuote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
I have tried to make this more difficult. Driver name, year, track location, car maker (and model no. ?), pls....
http://transfers.mep-llc.com/files/o...car.photo1.jpg
My guess is:
Walt Brown
Milwaukee
1948
Kurtis-Offy (don't know the number - perhaps a 2000)
Hi Chris...
Well, I'll give you the "Offy" part.
But all of the other stuff is off, sorry, but somewhat close.
SC
oh well, you have to start someplace!! back to the books :)
Trying to start somewhere:
Is the track Lakewood?
Driver- Bill Holland
Year- 1949
Car- Kurtis Kraft-Offy
Track- Langhorne
Tough Track to drive and became harder every year until it closed.
Phoenix, that is almost all correct regarding driver, track and year. However, the source of the photo shows a different car maker/model.
It is listed as a "Milt Marion KK2000" but I could take that to mean the entrant and/or sponsor was Milt Marion and a KK2000 denotes "Kurtis Kraft" model 2000 as mentioned earlier above. Possible Mr. Marion built a slightly modified Kurtis Kraft.
In the photo note the extereme lack of outside guardrails and fencing protection for the spectator stands.
Bill Holland was a very successful driver of his time. Between 1947 and 1950 he finished the Indy 500 in 2nd, 1st, 2nd, and 2nd !
Anyway, close enough for government work, it is now your turn !!!
Nice Photo. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Chassis #326-49. This KK2000, built in 1949, went to Milt Marion, of Mineola, New York . Milt Marion owned the car from 1949 to 1955.
Chassis and body are Kurtis. The front end is a cross spring set by Milt Marion. International front spindles. Hubs made by Conde, rear axle is quick change, with Halibrand rear end. Ford shocks front and rear. Norden steering, brakes are Catton disc, with four Dayton Wire Wheels and hubs. Ford three speed transmission. Kurtis Torsion bar rear suspension.
Curently for sale on Ebay Motors for 135,000.00
Bill Holland was suspended from AAA events for racing in non-AAA events for 2 years 1951 and 1952.
New Photo Coming Up.
Driver, Car, Year, & Track
http://shutter06.pictures.aol.com/da...53t5FF0258.jpg
Bumping back to top,
Alex Zanardi
Reynard Honda
1998
no idea on track
Juan Montoya
2000 Lola 2K-toyota
its that Lola with the funky extended wheelbase - no idea on the track - maybe Laguna.....
You are correct Chris. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
The spacer was used to move the wings forward on Montoya's car while Vasser had the wheel base extended on his. The track was Cleveland and Ganassi had copied Newman Haas trying to get the Lola hooked up.
Your Turn.
that was one funky modification.... :)
however it gives some precedent for the proposed merger - perhaps if we stick a Dallara nose on a DP-01 or vice versa - anyone good with photoshop???
anyway, here is the next one - the usual please....
Chris, how about...
Len Sutton
1962
Leader Card 500 Roadster, Watson Offy
Guess at Indy 500, although the smaller stands in the photo indicate possibly Milwaukee.
If it was Indy, Len Sutton, finsihes second to Leader Card 500 Roadster team-mate Roger Ward by 11-seconds.
After retiring from driving, Sutton went into broadcasting and was a member of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network for many years. Sutton died at his home in Portland at age 81 after a long battle with cancer.
socal, you've got it!! thanks for the additional info!
your turn!
Given the present situation of the "merger" and all, give me a few minutes to find something really special for this group !!!
Hello SoCAl. :rolleyes:
Here is a 'two-fer' for you all.
http://transfers.mep-llc.com/files/old.race.car.2.jpg
Drivers name, Year, Manufacturer, engine displacement and configuration/features, and other features that made this care unique.
http://transfers.mep-llc.com/files/old.race.car.3.jpg
Year, car name, manufacturer, engine size and configuration, and another "first" in race cars.
I think these will be pretty easy for the afficianados out there.
Ok, # 3 is Peter DePaolo, 1927, Miller/Offenhauser, front wheel drive, next to my neighbor's brick house, no idea about displacement.
Maybe innertubes?
OK, the bottom image, 1917 Golden Submarine, Miller, Barny Oldfield, Engine Specification:
4 Cylinder aluminum alloy, 289 cid, 3-5/8 bore x 7" stroke, 136 H.P. @ 2950 R.P.M., Single overhead cam, desmodromic valves, dual intake ports for each cylinder, dual sparkplugs and magnetos.
Body and Chassis:
Wind tunnel tested aluminum body with rollover protection. 104" wheelbase. 1600 lbs.
Race Record:
Competed in 54 races; 20 wins, 2 seconds 2 thirds. Competed in the 1919 Indy race but did not finish.
First enclosed cockpit (NASCAB)?
Brad, these are correct.
DePaolo's 1927 car is a Harry Miller 91-c.i. (1.5-liters) with dual overhead cam, straight-8 cylinders using 32-valves, 4-valves per cylinder, and was supercharged, a very advanced engine for its time. It had front wheel drive, a unique concept at the time. It also had "in-board" brakes next to the FWD housing, lessening the aerodynamic profile of the brakes out at the wheels.
The Golden sub is all you said with the addition that is was the first car ever to use hydraulic front brakes.
It is now your turn !!!
OK, so how do you paste the car in the reply? Here is the link, driver, year(s)...
Quote:
Originally Posted by rpralon
Cogan 1984 Ligier?
Brad -- It's a Miller-Gulf, looks like Indy to me. I don't know the year or driver.
Brad
Driver- Al Miller
Year- 1941
Car- Miller 4WD - Miller Supercharged
Track- Indianapolis
rpralon
Driver- Kevin Cogan
Year- 1984
Car- Liger CO2-Cosworth
Track- Long Beach
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Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Yep! Your turn(s)!
Thanks Brad.
I have photos of the Miller after it was restored. It was a very cool car and ahead of it's time to bad it took another 20 years for rear engine to catch on at the speedway.
Here is the next photo.
Driver, Car, Year, & Track
http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/da...Zce5b8018D.jpg
Try This
1965 Brabham BT12, -Offy
Jim McElreath
Finished 20th Indy 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Right Track. :up:
Keep Digging. :)
It' s the same car, but a year earlier:
(Sir) Jack Brabham
1964
Brabham BT12-offy
Indy 500
Brabham cars competed at the Indianapolis 500 from the mid 1960s to the early 1970s. After an abortive project in 1962,[49] MRD was commissioned in 1964 to build an Indycar chassis powered by an American Offenhauser engine. The resultant BT12 chassis was raced by Jack Brabham as the Zink-Urschel Trackburner at the 1964 event and retired with a fuel tank problem. The car was entered again in 1966, taking a third place for Jim McElreath.
1962 Zink Trackburner turbine.....
Indy
Dan Gurney
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding,Ding. We have a winner. :bounce:
Gurney switched to Mickey Thompsons team for the race. If you look closely you can see the intake for the turbine behind the roll bar.
Good work Chris. :up:
Your Turn
Here is some more info on this beastie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
This is excerpted from Dan Gurney's AllAmericanRacers website, and it addresses his first Indy 500 and inviting Colin Chapman...who he hooked up with Ford and who ultimaely revloutionized open-wheeled racing the following year with the Lotus:
"But first, The Rookie Test: It was good that Chapman was such a self-sufficient guest, because Gurney was not able to play full-time host at the Indy 500 party. He wound up driving one of three mid-engined cars designed by Englishman John Crostwaite for Mickey Thompson, who powered them with aluminum Buick V8s as the Harvey Aluminum Specials. Thompson, like Gurney, had seen the future in the Cooper Brabham drove in ‘61, and he was there with a team the year after Brabham’s pioneering run in the Cooper.
Before he could drive, Gurney, like any first-time Indy driver, had to take and pass his rookie test. The car he drove for that test was, ironically, an Offy, John Zink’s "Trackburner Special". It was his first drive in an Offy and his first drive on an oval track.
"I had never driven a lap on an oval track before," Gurney says, "or on those old, very hard, narrow-tread Firestone tires, that were essentially built for rigid-axle cars."
"The rookie test was not a slam-dunk affair," Gurney says. "There was no guarantee you were going to be able to get the car up to the speed you needed to go to qualify for the Speedway."
Gurney managed. He says the difference in feel between the Offy and the mid-engined monocoque was not as vast as one might think.
"There wasn’t that much difference in the steering effort of the front-engined Offy and the rear-engined Lotus I drove the following year," Gurney says. The thing that impressed him was the track itself."
According to his, the Zinc Trackburner was an Offy roadster...and Gurney drove it only to complete his rookie tests....
This information finally prompted another party to contact Donald Davidson, the Historian at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, who is an authority on not only the IMS but many aspects of the history of Open Wheeled racing.... Here is "The Word" from Donald Himself:
1962 -- John Zink (with a "K") did in fact enter both a turbine and a Front Engined Roadster with the offy that year...Gurney took his Rookie Test in the Offy car, and practiced in it as well, because the turbine was not ready yet...in addition to Gurney, Duane Carter Sr. and Bill Cheesbourgh, among others, also did practice in the Zink Turbine car once it was ready to run, but it was still very experimental...none could get it up to speeds needed, so the car was not entered into qualifying....that was when Gurney had to get his ride with Mickey Thompson that I described above... BTW...this Turbine also was a Boeing engine...
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...=guessthis.jpg
here is a new one... year, track and at least the front two cars.....
great info on the Zink turbine - here's hoping for a new era of innovation!!
Drivers- Car #3 Don Branson inside pole and Car #98 Parnelli Jones outside pole
Year- 1961
Car- Car #3 Epperly-Offy and Car #98 Watson-Offy
Track- Milwaukee - August Race
Phoenix has it! (I feel sort of like Tom Carnegie saying "and its a new lap record" as often as I have typed that!!)...
good work!
your turn
Thanks Chris. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
That Epperly sure looks different next to the Watson. They had 26 cars on the track for that start. Sure would be nice to see 26 cars at Milwaukee again.
New photo coming up.
Driver, Car, & Year
http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/da...DEaCpJ0190.jpg