Fuel issue- No penalty for BMW/Williams- McLaren to appeal

There are two kinds of forumers

- those who come to exchange ideas and have fun, a bit of wordplay, learn things you didn't know, persuade and be persuaded by reasoning,

- and those who come to fight their unchanging cause through 1,000,000 posts come what may.

It's a trap for some of these to forget that it's sport, not the real world.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

It would probably be a good idea for some of the fans to examine their attitudes. There is a big difference between disliking a person or team and hating them!

I think the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, but they are not the same. I might dislike Ron Dennis, for example, but I don't hate him. Hatred could be construed as wishing him bodily harm or death! That's pretty extreme when we're discussing a sport! F1 isn't life or death despite the way some "fans" act!

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I totally agree but I wonder how many people keep mentioning hate because English isn't their first language and are unaware of the distinction between that and dislike?

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Originally Posted by passmeatissue

There are two kinds of forumers

- those who come to exchange ideas and have fun, a bit of wordplay, learn things you didn't know, persuade and be persuaded by reasoning,

- and those who come to fight their unchanging cause through 1,000,000 posts come what may.

It's a trap for some of these to forget that it's sport, not the real world.

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Never have truer words been spoken/written on here.

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

I totally agree but I wonder how many people keep mentioning hate because English isn't their first language and are unaware of the distinction between that and dislike?

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I would say that some of those responsible have made it quite clear that they know what they've been saying. Fair comment though.

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

I totally agree but I wonder how many people keep mentioning hate because English isn't their first language and are unaware of the distinction between that and dislike?

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Let's make it clear:

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

Often the verb "to hate" is used casually as an exaggeration to describe things one merely dislikes, such as a particular style of architecture, a certain climate or some particular kind of food.

"Hatred" is also used to describe feelings of prejudice, bigotry or condemnation (see shunning) against a class of people and members of that class.

The passions of hate arise from several features of our thinking process. These include a desire to strengthen our community and to alleviate our fear. The ability to quickly separate friend from foe is essential to self-defense and safety and provides the origins of hate.[1]

However, hatred in modern life is frequently unrelated to survival or self-defense. People are capable of hating others for any particular reason, people with different political and religious views, different lifestyles, and fans of opposing sports teams, to name but a few.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred

So, as I already pointed it out, "hatred" is not about wishing someone's death or bodily harm.
It's more like a very very deep dislike. And as pointed out in those quotes it is frequent in supporters of different sports.

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Originally Posted by passmeatissue

There are two kinds of forumers

- those who come to exchange ideas and have fun, a bit of wordplay, learn things you didn't know, persuade and be persuaded by reasoning,

- and those who come to fight their unchanging cause through 1,000,000 posts come what may.

It's a trap for some of these to forget that it's sport, not the real world.

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And which type did you get pitched out of
before you graced us with your self-righteous, Anglo, slanted, spiel.

If there is anything worthwhile to be said about the fuel issue that hasn't been said during the 22 pages of this thread you'd better come up with something soon, my finger is already howering on the "close thread" button. ;)

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Originally Posted by passmeatissue

There are two kinds of forumers

- those who come to exchange ideas and have fun, a bit of wordplay, learn things you didn't know, persuade and be persuaded by reasoning,

- and those who come to fight their unchanging cause through 1,000,000 posts come what may.

It's a trap for some of these to forget that it's sport, not the real world.

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And those who start rubbish threads without any other reason than having fun, aren't they also a category? :mad:

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Originally Posted by janneppi

If there is anything worthwhile to be said about the fuel issue that hasn't been said during the 22 pages of this thread you'd better come up with something soon, my finger is already howering on the "close thread" button. ;)

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You may open it again on 15th November. ;)

Will do.