Maybe we got into trouble when we had 670 700 720 725 750 775 and 800 HP power levels in the same season depending on track and altitude. You need a program to know what you are watching power - wise.
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Maybe we got into trouble when we had 670 700 720 725 750 775 and 800 HP power levels in the same season depending on track and altitude. You need a program to know what you are watching power - wise.
rh
That too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop-98
Regardless of how the OWRS owners are spinning it, Mexico is in deep trouble as a Champ Car event. The same old problems have reared their ugly heads: Lack of fan and commercial support (see the translated item on the Autoracing1 home page). There is simply is no real economy behind the series to make it work for promoters, teams and drivers.
Recently, heelntoe stated on this thread that Next Marketing had resigned the Champ Car sales account mere months after enthusiastically taking on the assignment. I can now add that I have had independent confirmation that this is true. The reasons why they chose to quit were told to me in confidence but I can share that most here would not be surprised at all. I will also be shocked if CDW continues with Champ Car given what I now know.
I can't help but get the feeling that the ownership of OWRS is doing their deceptive best to keep appearances up by never confirming negative events until their hand is forced. Why is anyone's guess? My hunch is that it is that old sucker game of trying to convince current and potential promoters and teams that things are not as bad as they really are.
When the 9-13 race 2008 schedule is finally announced we will all know the hard truth so what is all this posturing really about?
Well, things really are as bad as they appear. Actually, they are far worse given the apparent deceptive nature of some of the men who own Champ Car. It seems that lying and hiding the truth is viewed as the only hope.
It does not have to be this way. Honesty and sincerity go a long way in business and in life. Establishing realistic expectations is part of saving or growing a business. Doing the opposite is part of killing one.
The PR Spin machine is starting to ignite in Mexico for the race... SJ satated in an interview, that he will surprise us with a schedule in two weeks... He did not commit on weather CCWS is going to be back in Aztec soil next year (hmmm GF pissed off?), but he did state a commitment with the country.. what ever that means (probably a change in venue --again GF?--)...
SJ stated that MD and Martinez are key factors for the promotion of the race in Autodromo. Also he said that even though the title may be defined in Australia, drivers will be very focused on second and third...
This all acording to Reforma, one of the leading newspapers in Mexico...
I don't have any insider info, I don't claim to know anyone in the series, but from a casual fan's perspective I think that losing CDW and (possibly) having Mexico fall by the wayside would spell the end of my interest in the series, if not the end of the series itself. The owners and the yes-men of CCWS can say all they want to about a plan and a vision, but the momentum for this series definitely seems largely negative and that will not inspire confidence in potential sponsors and current teams.
Their idea of going to Europe is flawed as there are no particular reasons as the why CCWS will stand out in a crowd of several sub-F1 level racing series. Unless they bring in lots of European drivers and have the majority of their season in Europe, in which case their already limited North American sponsor base will be alienated and no doubt look to a more US-centered series. They may pick up European sponsors, but it will take several years of spending from CCWS to establish a solid set of races here. Time, and money, it would seem, that they do not have. Rockingham and Eurospeedway could have succeeded back in 2002 and onwards, but the management at the time chose to move away from ovals.
As I said above I don't know anything about the inner working of the series, I can only go on what I read in the press, and as far as I can see our horizontally challeneged female is grabbing the mic and getting ready to warble a tune.....
Champ Car finally has a link to a web site for Mexico
http://www.granpremiotecate.com/
Of course it is in Spanish and my Spanish is too rusty to get anything from it. But the web site exists.
No, they are not, and no one should expect them to be. They will see through this sham as the American and Canadian fans do; if the crowd isn't that big, you will know why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cart750hp
....but they are....Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaparral66
[quote="Chaparral66'355504"]They will see through this sham as the American and Canadian fans do]
How can you count on the a big crowd when they just announced two weeks ago that they are cutting more grandstands? Plus, the on-call drivers are up.
I think we're saying the same thing, here. Would they be cutting grand stands if they expected a big crowd? Why cut out stands and ***** customers if they expected a lot to show up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cart750hp
I was talking about how the owners are out of their minds if they think the Mexicans are that stupid to not know that they are being mislead. I won't be surprised to find out CC giving freebies this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaparral66
Yes we are talking the same tune, Chaparral.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaprral66
Why did "they" (as in owners) tell people that there would be a huge announcement in Laguna Seca when there was nothing to announce and not a word from the management that day? (well, not until KK spoke about swimming with penguins)
Why did they put China on schedule when it wasn't even finalized?
Why say there will be at least 20 cars when you are not sure if there will be?
....this is not a new thing from CC management/owners. SJ's statement for Mexico said there'll be 200K. What the heck is wrong with this management? Obviously, these guys like to make a fool of themselves a lot while their fanatics see this as a good thing. I have a feeling that Steve Johnson is making money through comission by the number of people he can mislead. I think it's possible. I believe he said that the schedule for 08 will be out within two weeks and it's a world class schedule. Anyone still believe this fool?