another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by Starter

Thankfully, he doesn't get to vote.

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I guess he would have a hard time voting for any of your pro machine gun politicians.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Works just the same with my changes.

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No it doesn't, because a gun is inherently a more dangerous thing than is a film or a video game. This is where I make the distinction, and I consider it an important one. Your trouble is that, to you, guns are a way of everyday life.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

The sort of comment that almost suggests that the person making it is against the very concept of laws. An adult might want to have sex with a five-year-old. Who, according to your reasoning, is to say whether they should or shouldn't?

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Not at all. Sex with a five-year-old harms someone and violates their rights of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. For me (or any of the millions of legal gun owners in this country) to legally own a firearm does no harm to anyone. And in fact might even prevent harm from coming to me.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Those who live in fear should not be pandered to, for fear is a negative, often irrational thing and policy should be made on a rational basis.

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Fear is not the sole motivation for people to own guns. Sport and "just because" are factors in many people's minds when they buy/own firearms.

Ask someone who has protected their own Life, Liberty, or Property if they feel "pandered" to. Read up on the recent shootings at the mall in Oregon, or the theater in Texas, and ask those that were there, but unharmed, if they were being "pandered" to when those with weapons cut short those madmen's murderous plans.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

No it doesn't, because a gun is inherently a more dangerous thing than is a film or a video game. This is where I make the distinction, and I consider it an important one. Your trouble is that, to you, guns are a way of everyday life.

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"The pen is mightier than the sword".

And guns are not a way of everyday life for me.

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Originally Posted by Gregor-y

I'm a bit conflicted about restrictions for former felons as in many states it's also used to permanently deny the right to vote.

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Sounds like a 'free' country to me. :s

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Originally Posted by henners88

I can understand why people who are in to hunting owning fire arms. You can own shot guns and single shooters in the UK with the correct license. My question is, what does the average person living in suburbia need a gun for? We keep seeing this obsession with rights like its a religion, but what are the reasons?

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Paranoia?
Can you blame them with all the violence and terrorist danger news they are being fed with day and night?

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Nope. Which is one of many reasons why it is ineffective. Connecticut has laws requiring gun locks and locked gun storage in households with children under 18 I believe. How well did that work? Apparently the mother either didn't have her guns locked or the 20 year old son knew where she kept the keys.

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he was already 20, which is over 18.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

The sort of comment that almost suggests that the person making it is against the very concept of laws. An adult might want to have sex with a five-year-old. Who, according to your reasoning, is to say whether they should or shouldn't?

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I don't know, is the five year old really hot?? (Stupid answer by me to a stupid question.)

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Those who live in fear should not be pandered to, for fear is a negative, often irrational thing and policy should be made on a rational basis.

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OK, now we have people who "live in fear" having some of their rights taken away. Who will be the next ones to lose some of their rights?

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Because our constitution say we can.

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:rolleyes:

Maybe your constitution should say you are all allowed to have free access to medical care. Just goes to show that the founding fathers of your nation were no visionaries, not a bit.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Maybe, maybe not. Why do YOU get to decide for ME?

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Why do you get so upset over nothing?