While I think the Tories are a bunch of toffs in it for their own gain. I'd agree that Tory policies are merely seriously misguided rather than corrupt.
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While I think the Tories are a bunch of toffs in it for their own gain. I'd agree that Tory policies are merely seriously misguided rather than corrupt.
British politics may have its serious faults, but at least it isn't as pointlessly polarised as is US politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I'll defer to your industry experience. The part about greedy lenders stands though, as you've just reenforced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
By the way, I don't listen to talk radio. Though I'll confess that a few years ago I'd tune into Rush ever once in a while at lunch - but that was just for laughs. It was more entertaining than the day time TV in the lunch room.
Actually "people who stand for unlimited competition" do exist and some of them would even go so far as to suggest that the only role of government is to prevent civil disorder, which basically suggests that government's duties are defence, the police and the judiciary and that's all. Such thinking falls squarely in the realm of the Austrian School of economics, as championed by Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
Ironically this is what's known in economics as "liberal" and even falls into the philosophical position of Libertarianism. On the classic left-right scale (before the American press buggered it up royally), no government whatsoever, is defined as the ultimate rightist position on a left-right scale.
The terminology works utterly perfectly. It is the media and politics who like to spin things to coerce people's thinking to either sell them ideas or products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
While I have no doubt that such people exist, I am yet to meet one, and I include in this the time I spent working in politics. One hears even the most rabid right-wing Tory MPs urging the government to intervene in, for example, assisting British industry in exporting its wares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
And, pray tell, just what are those personal interests? And, how do they compare with those of Romney, a former venture capitalist whose own interests at Bain Capital would often seem to be at odds with the nation's interest? Please, try to be coherent and specific, in actual sentences of your own, if possible, not parroting some of the code words or terms that you have used in the past. Demonstrate that you are capable of articulating the reasons behind such a statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
As an aside, exactly what happens when President Obama is re-elected? Will the skies darken and the sun vanish? Will the tides neither ebb nor flow? Will the poles tilt? Will birds no longer sing? Will Kansas experience the Rapture? Just curious so as to be prepared for the consequences.
Splendid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Capps
I think that if we can engage DanicaFan in reasonable dialogue, that we might be able to draw him out. Obviously he is a dyed-in-the-wool card carrying Republican and that's fine, there's room in a discussion, provided that's what it is.
If you look at all the major indicators (DJIA, TED Spread and the LIBOR-OIS), they spiked in the period from mid-October through to early January 2009. An election occurs in November '08 and we have a lame duck until January 20, 2009.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
This means to suggest that any incoming president, would have inherited an economy like a recently exploded hand grenade.
My question, is if McCain had been elected in '08, he still would have been faced with precisely the same sets of problems; since we know this to be true, how do you think he would have handled it differently?
Secondly, given that the electorate deliberately voted in a hostile congress in 2010, if McCain had been President, what's not to suggest that there'd wouldn't be another hostile congress voted in but with the colours flipped?
It's all very well to suggest that the President has done a bad job but at some point the American people have to fess up to the fact that they deliberately made the job more difficult than it needed to be. My conjecture is that if McCain had been President then this whole discussion would be pretty well much identical but with the colours flipped.
I think the very first post demonstrated that reasonable dialogue would not, shall we say, be a strong point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Some — not all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
And that, friends and neighbors, explains how US politics works. We don't want one party control. There is way too much room for excess that way. A divided House & Senate vs a different party President requires compromise. The Republicans have assumed that if they oppose everything they will win everything. They are wrong. The Democrats have assumed the few times they have controlled both, that they can steamroller whatever they like. They are also wrong. The greatest advances have been made when a Congress of one party and a President of another have worked (reluctantly) with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo