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24th October 2010, 12:40
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I'm glad you clarified and said most of the season, and not all of the season.

Their strong qualifying performance is aided by their ignition retardation systems, which only provides an advantage in qualifying, not the race.

Blaming the drivers would be overly simplistic, and overlooking reliability, poor strategy, and poor team management.

I think what we are seeing is that Alonso and Hamilton are great drivers - the two best on the grid - and are punching above their cars competitiveness compared to the Red Bull drivers. I always thought Webber was a good driver, and Vettel is a future WDC for sure, but they have both made too many mistakes this year. This WDC and CC should have been won by now. Thankfully for us, the fans, it is still alive and well!

Red Bull management also needs to take a look in the mirror. A few silly decisons and reliability problems looks like losing them WDC championship. The CC should still be a doddle...though you never know!
24th October 2010, 12:42
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

The obvious conclusion would be that Vettel is a carbreaker, for the less cognitive of us.

Well he was the one driving it, wasn't he ;)
24th October 2010, 12:58
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Well he was the one driving it, wasn't he ;)

I honestly don't think a drivers driving style has anything at all to do with whether or not it blows up, as overrevving doesn't occur and kerb-riding was not prominent with any driver today. I think it's just a numbers game, with Newey preferring designs that compromise reliability for speed.
24th October 2010, 13:02
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

I honestly don't think a drivers driving style has anything at all to do with whether or not it blows up, as overrevving doesn't occur and kerb-riding was not prominent with any driver today. I think it's just a numbers game, with Newey preferring designs that compromise reliability for speed.

You do know I was being sarcastic ;) You are right though, it is difficult for a driver to destroy engines these days with all the safety systems.
24th October 2010, 13:05
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I think what we are seeing is that Alonso and Hamilton are great drivers - the two best on the grid - and are punching above their cars competitiveness compared to the Red Bull drivers. I always thought Webber was a good driver, and Vettel is a future WDC for sure, but they have both made too many mistakes this year. This WDC and CC should have been won by now. Thankfully for us, the fans, it is still alive and well!

Fernando's mid-season prior to Germany was pretty ordinary, but he has had excellent results since. Hamilton has been the most consistent, only Singapore and Monza being points of critisism as far as I'm concerned.

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Red Bull management also needs to take a look in the mirror. A few silly decisons and reliability problems looks like losing them WDC championship. The CC should still be a doddle...though you never know!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87723

I agree. However if the driver's roles were reversed, I'm sure Marko would have different ideas.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

You do know I was being sarcastic ;) You are right though, it is difficult for a driver to destroy engines these days with all the safety systems.

Oops :p :
24th October 2010, 13:06
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

You do know I was being sarcastic ;) You are right though, it is difficult for a driver to destroy engines these days with all the safety systems.

Oops :p :
24th October 2010, 13:14
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Fernando's mid-season prior to Germany was pretty ordinary, but he has had excellent results since. Hamilton has been the most consistent, only Singapore and Monza being points of critisism as far as I'm concerned.

I think Alonso was still finding his feet with Ferrari early in the season. He now seems settled and driving like the 2 X WDC he is. I think he will be a strong contender in 2011 again if Ferrari have a decent car.

Hamilton is just Hamilton...an all out racer like we used to see prior to professionalism and big business in the sport. He never gives in and his skills are sublime. I rank him behind Alonso only because Alonso has been around longer and is a 2 X WDC with an impressive resume. The future will determine which leaves the sport with the best career behind them.
24th October 2010, 13:17
Dave B

Maybe an explaination for MS's sudden turn of speed: Ted Kravitz reports that during the first stoppage Mercedes converted both cars to a full-wet setup, they don't believe that any other team made such a change.

It was great to see the old man get a good result, but there may have been more to it than pure driver ability.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9122188.stm
24th October 2010, 13:25
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Maybe an explaination for MS's sudden turn of speed: Ted Kravitz reports that during the first stoppage Mercedes converted both cars to a full-wet setup, they don't believe that any other team made such a change.

It was great to see the old man get a good result, but there may have been more to it than pure driver ability.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9122188.stm

Could be. But The Shoe was good in Japan and good today. He seems to be getting back into his rhythm. Brazil will confirm where he is at the moment.
24th October 2010, 13:33
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by Dave B

It was great to see the old man get a good result, but there may have been more to it than pure driver ability.

I think it's being overlooked how well Nico was performing before he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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