what jump???
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what jump???
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Τanak mistake at powerstage
https://streamable.com/2mgdy
I'm excited for Mexico! Latvala might have an issue on day one with road sweeping, but as long as he remains in the top six he could claw back some time on the last two days. He's historically done well in Mexico, so here's to hoping we get another win/podium.
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was the peugeot management Finish ???Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Alright, good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You still can't deny that they have been successful, regardless of their practices or ways of working.
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Glad to be proven wrong about Ogier winning after Neuville's crash yesterday. Nice win by Latvala and it looks like the championship is somewhat open. Still it would have been better if Neuville hadn't done his silly mistakes, as I feel Ogier will probably only get stronger during the year.
What is worrying about Citroen is that it does look like they have big handling problems on both cars. Hopefully they can sort it out, but they are team that tested the 2017 car longest and seem to have gotten it most wrong overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
I fail to see anyone making TGR king of anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
People just share their joy for a new comer in the series and gently laugh at the prediction floppers.
They came to learn and delivered a lot sooner than reasonnably expected.
The car is still under development, we're all well aware they inevitably will face the usual problems but it certainly has a lot of potential and we can salute their early achievements.
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Originally Posted by Rally Power
https://s5.postimg.org/lum1h5zpj/armchair_doubter.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
I think Citroen shouldn't worry at all, according forum "experts" season starts in Mexico. Same applies to Meeke, Ostberg and Neuville. Lol
No need to speculate on the driver’s line up; the current scene is fantastic (thanks VW Board) and we’re fortunate enough to have 4 top drivers on the 4 manus top seats. Like it was already mentioned, all of them were in max attack mode in today’s Power Stage, and the total split was pretty small: only 3s between Latvala and Meeke. We can see it as a sign that there’s a real balance between ’17 cars, even if during the whole event (just like in MC) pace differences were sometimes important.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Yes, they only have 10 or so different nationalities in the team! How terribly nationalistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
You should know by now that N.O.T never lets the facts get in the way of his trolling though.
Tommi Mäkinen "This win is dedicated to my longtime fan Greg, from Greece! Thanks for your kind words and support during the years!"Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Not to a degree but very much :) It's an event where the torque curve is hugely important, maybe most of all events (my opinion).Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
PS: I don't share Your opinion about Mexico and Argentina either. IMHO where there is general lack of power every bit of better power curve must be a reasonable advantage. Just have a look on R5 times in comparison to WRC in both Argentina and Mexico. Those cars have been always incredibly slow compared to WRC ones while on other events they have been mostly way closer.
I am very pleased that Meeke is progressing, and he now jumps over big rocks when leaving the road instead of smashing his gearbox on them. At this rate, the WDC is within his grasp.
But... Hyundai seems to have the best car, and Neuville is quick and Sordo is reliable and Paddon will avoid lady luck's ire eventually. I think the championships are theirs to lose... but they look strangely like they could do so. From here I don't know if Neuville will have a nervous breakdown or Hyundai will turn into the new VW.
But Ford is good (yay!). And Toyota is good (yay!). And aliens have abducted JML and replaced him with a strange new creature (yay!).
Good season ahead. Hopefully for us Citroen fans too. Eh. Ok.
About Argentina and Mexico with the R5 it's because they have to breathe through a smaller restrictor. It makes sense that a lower absolute pressure forced through a smaller opening will create a bigger difference than a larger absolute pressure and the same comparison so I am not too surprised there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
However if the difference in power comes from engine internals, engine management etc etc, you'd see a smaller power gap (if we assume the reduction in power is linear for both manufactures, which we both know is not necessarily the case but still).
About Corsica, imagine the extreme case of a mustang with a live rear axle and leaf springs and all that American engineering goodness from the mid 1800's, but with a massively tuned engine at around 800 bhp, vs a Ford Fiesta R2. We both know the Fiesta will win because it has a better chassis. That's the point I'm trying to argue. Sure, if you have a better engine you might reach 5-10 km/h more ate the end of the straight, but if you lose 15 on the corner, the other car will win.
What the f**k do you imagine you know about professional anything aside from your little career as a lab-rat?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
And in particular what the f**k do you think you know about rally..
To know means something different from imagining you know something...
So how do you know what a professional "way to do things" is?
You don't know..NOT one thing because you are a sad, pitiful, little dreamer... You've been here YEARS and yet you still haven't driven ONE club event..
I wonder if the other people who rely on accurate procedures in the lab know what a delusional and absurd figure you are.. I would certainly worry to be working around anybody who talked such non-stop fantasy driven bulls**t.
Hey NOT, since you seem so obsessed with trying top pretend to be a man, what a man would say after all your years of insulting men who are men like you will NOT ever be, and I'm sick of your crap, I'll try helping you....A real man would say at this point :
"Well gawd-damn...I guess I was so wrong it ain't even funny...yep totally full of sh*t..OK, Congratulations to Tomi and the whole crew. Congratulations to Latvala. And apologies to the forum members"
Try it..You obviously grew up with no clue how to be a man.. Try it..
Or just continue being NOT.
In NOT's defense (whaaat?) he did congratulate Latvala and TGR. Still, he coooould admit he was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
I'll be honest, as dumb and half thought out NOTs comments are, I like seeing what he has to say and effectively discussing with him. He's definitely annoying and hostile but he's ever so slightly growing on me like mold on bread.
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Mirek, simple question: in those R5 cars which are so much slower in MEX and AR, who is driving? I mean long ways to go, is it all the same drivers in Mexico and Argentina as back in European events?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
(cars don't drive themselves...maybe---if its different drivers, the best "locally" aren't as fast..Maybe only "richer" Euro can afford the trip??)
You haven't been reading his ridiculous---and getting more ridiculous-- claptrap where he endlessly tries to sh*t all over people doing things he will never be able to do for more than 10 years..Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Superficially he's like a bright 12 year old.....after a while you realise that he is actually a crippled 14 y.o. who has gone bad, and hates the whole world..
One trick pony.
Trust me, I have. He shits on the "village team" the most, and I'm a die-hard fan of Latvala and now the Jaris. He's dull, annoying and repetitive, but I can't deny that he gives me someone to blast with self admitted fanboyism. It's fun when others criticize him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
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Could it be wrong chassis base or just needs some fine-tune setup? Remains to be seen come the dry gravel.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
No. It's a sign that all teams stick to basic setup proven through the years. Same as in 2011. They don't want unnecessary risks, but reach the finish, gather data and hopefully some points. Later they will grow confidence and begin trying extremes. Some will win, some will fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCrnLC23QiU
consecutive passes - JML destroying everybody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcUbd0G-_80
I'm a fan Meeke & Nagle and want to see these doing well, and very frustrated with the performance over the last 2 rally's. I was convinced they had one eye on the championship this year. But after watching this, they are miles off!
Watch the on-board of Meeke on SS17 on WRC+.... I thought he had backed off to save tires for Power Stage...
Watch this first 5 mins.. after that he basically gave up..." "***k this, I'm not driving this"
Caution the language is +18
Hi Jan, if I am not mistaken Suninen or Fuchs were able to drive at around 3-4 s/km behind WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Latest I've heard was 16 different nationalitiesQuote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
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Thanks for the tip-off. And welcome to the forum!Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
That's a very interesting onboard indeed. Would recommend people watch it before Citroen get it pulled down.
Probably right, the article I read saying 10 was from sometime last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
That is certainly an interesting ride!Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
Wow... that onboard. Car looks like it has too much power to the rear..
Hope they get it sorted asap because Mr Meeke is one very unhappy man.
Is 33 to 32 mm so much different?Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Agreed. Just watched it (with headphones on, fair warning) and it's a fascinating watch. The car is shoddy and he is fighting to keep it in the road. No wonder such colourful language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
That is one horribly handling car, potentially big problems for Citroen.
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Interesting that it doesn't look so bad on SS16 though, I wonder if they changed something between stages.
Great result. Just what the championship needed. Well done JML, Tommi & Toyota.
Unfortunate mistake again by Neuville, but super impressed by his speed. As well as Tanak's pace.
Citroen has some work to do.
Being a Kiwi, I'm hoping Paddon can have a bit of luck next rally.
Now as far as that troll sNOT is concerned. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Everything he says is wrong.
When I asked the forum about six months or more ago if 2016 WRC cars would be allowed to compete in 2017, sNOT was the first to answer with "NO". Proven wrong...again, like most things he posts on here.
You all know the crap he writes on here, he will rubbish any driver who has a bad rally and say they should leave the WRC. He will put down a new team before they they even hit the stages. Fickle.
sNOT, you may have some form of brain that allows you to play with your testes and tube in the lab. That brain may be intelligent, but it's definitely not smart.
It seems quite obvious that something is wrong with the Citroen car. I do hope it is not something fundamental but rather setup related and they can improve quick.
I expect Toyota to struggle on gravel a bit, hope i am wrong again.
Citroen, Quesnel, engineers, test drivers, Seb and Seb. What did they all have in common?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Pse reply without displaying your need to boost your inferiority complex
that Sordo was spanishQuote:
Originally Posted by mozesii