Stumbled across this, so they use both the farm and this next to the main road still? Looked quite empty during Rally Finland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Xs2nUaw7E
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Stumbled across this, so they use both the farm and this next to the main road still? Looked quite empty during Rally Finland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Xs2nUaw7E
No! Only farm. The new building is a kindergarten nowadays...Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
and kindergartens are empty in weekends ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
yesterday in portugal https://twitter.com/eWRCresults/stat...59159463190529
http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9133972
Tommi confirms that only 2 cars in Monte-Carlo, after that maybe more.
Admits that has talked with Neuville.
Same as before for Hänninen and Lappi.
hmmm...nothing new really besides that Tänak and Suninen arent mentioned anymore but that doesnt mean much ;)
Kalle Rovanpera has tested the Toyota WRC 2017 Car
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...orld-rally-car
He tested the car a month ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by leighton323
In Latvian championship Rovanperä has taken four wins out of five, once he was 2nd.
MTV is not a newspaper, it's a broadcast media.
Otherwise nice article.
Now it's official: Hänninen and Lappi for Toyota in 2017 - full season for both!
Here it is (in Finnish though):
http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9176929
According to the article (written by well-informed Finn Miika Wuorela), third driver will be named at a later stage, but the two driving full season will be Hänninen and Lappi. Official announcement due in Paris motorshow on Sep 28.
I have to say, I quite like the line-up. Hänninen gets his chance to drive a full WRC season (which he definitely deserves) and you never know just how fast Lappi will/can be. Now it's all up to the car itself...
Although I really like Juho I think that this line-up is at best very risky.
not a surprise at all this line-up...the interesting thing is who will be in the third car, is Ostberg's career now finished or will he be saved with the third car either from Toyota or M-sport? It maybe also Suninen or Tidemand.
So happy with Juho. He deserve it.
Btw, Lappi will try WRC2 title yet ;) with non Skoda
A bit interim solution. Couldn't get any to name, so safe Hänninen and young gun Lappi. Lappi a good choise.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Third will probably be Arai, he has been more impressive of the two Japanese in Toyota program
Two Finns in a Finnish-run team is too conservative, boring and not a great outcome for the Championship. These two are hardly going to present an energised and personality-led boost to the WRC...
Lappi is fair enough, but Hanninen has had his chances and is not the 'future' of the WRC, he's not even the 'now' of the WRC....
Does it means that Tanak is staying with M-sport?
I am also happy about Juho
Yeah, too bad they both got their big chance by purely being good drivers... such a shame:pQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Well, six starts with Hyundai and four (or actually three worth a mention) with Ford. One can easily argue, that it's not exactly a great deal of chances for 2010 IRC, 2011 SWRC and 2012 ERC champion... But hey, now he's got his chance - no more speculation about that is needed after 2017 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
http://http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9177081
More from Mäkinen...
- testing on asphalt has NOT been started yet - but will be during September.
- the plan was to start testing on snow in early 2016, but the transmission was delayed and therefore no testing has been done on snowy surface.
- Tommi wants to make the car "attractive" to top-name drivers during 2017 - Tommi says the team wants to be on podium asap in 2017, but admits the year will be spent more or less on learning and developing the car further.
- the cars have now been tested for more than 6000 kms on gravel.
Well, no podium for sure with this lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Agree. No doubt very fast drivers, but equally error prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Ostberg in the 3rd seat. To drive around and finish 10th
Don´t believe everything what Tommi says ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
OK, more than 6000km testing is true...
If there are 15 new WRC cars that will do... plus he'll find the car's problems if anyone can. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
Even if the car does not have any problems ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Sent from my ONE E1003 using Tapatalk
The same could have been said about Meeke a couple years back. One of the root causes behind Hänninen's problems in his first WRC entries was that he had little time to accommodate himself with the car and had very little chance to build the car to suit his driving preferences. When he was driving for Skoda for many years he had the chance to build the car to work for him. We all know well that Citroen has done this same with French drivers in the past. Even though there are some really talented young drivers in the series performing really well at times, experience counts when podium placements are shared. I think it's too early to judge any driver, particularly when the car is still under development. Time will tell. I'd really like to see Tidemand driving for Toyota in the 3rd car, however.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
No issues for me regarding the lineup. The most risky strategy for Toyota would be to employ slower guys who can't extract the performance from the car.
It's clear and now Tommi has confirmed they are essentially trying to lure a big fish for 2018. So if they can show the car is quick and add a year of development then Toyota become a more attractive package for one of the VW guys.
Lappi/Tanak would have been more exciting with Hanninen in the third car but nevermind. Big question for me is how many rounds will that third car do?
Two cars entry for Toyota confirmed for Monte-Carlo.
It seems a wise choice. Why bother to spend millions on a top driver salary if the car and the team are making their first steps?
Besides having a great future ahead of him, Lappi is the right guy to test the car limits at each rally, while Haninen has surely the ability to finish and pick points for the team.
Above all, Makinen is showing a sensible, even humble, approach to the series. Quite different from the Teutonic arrogance we’re used to.
Stefanvv, take a look at Lappi’s record this year. You’ll see that his only driving mistake was in Sweden (still he finished 3rd). In Italy he had a tech problem (suspension failure) and in Poland he hit the same stone that took Tanak’s victory away, finishing 3rd in WRC2. He dominated in Finland and in Germany. It’s a bit unfair to keep saying he’s still an error prone driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
More ”news”.
PAAVO / PanteAlex@PanteAlex
PAAVO / PanteAlex Retweeted Miiro Koivula
And @TGR_WRC Boss Tommi denies " we don't have any deals with 2017 drivers" But admits that team will be at @MondialAuto Paris
PAAVO / PanteAlex added,
Miiro Koivula @MiiroKoivula
#ralli Pari sanaa Toyotan kuskisopimuksista itseltään tallipäällikkö Tommi Mäkiseltä, ihan miehen omalla suulla => http://urheiluuutiset.com/tommi-maki...ajasopimuksia/
9:30 PM - 19 Sep 2016
Google translation from urheiluuutiset
Tommi Mäkinen
https://translate.google.com/transla...a%2F&edit-text=
Esapekka Lappi
https://translate.google.com/transla...a%2F&edit-text=
More information from Tommi Mäkinen today on @TGR_WRC - this time via @MiiroKoivula
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsvHxAbWEAAlxTM.jpg:large
A big partner/title sponsor would be very cool for the team. Not enough of these companies in rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I'm aware of his record this year, and admit it is quite positive... but he is far from being a complete driver. For me 2 almost identical drivers in 1 team is risky, that's all. Either they can win a lot, or lose a lot if pursuit podiums next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
He's 25 years old with zero starts in a WRC car. How is he supposed to be a complete driver at this point in his career?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I think Lappi will be allowed to go and learn the rallies without pressure. And when he's comfortable the speed will come. Hanninen is Tommi's guy and I think he will be asked to play more of a team game at times. Complete the rallies, get information etc.
I'm just quiet surprised that Juho has not done any events this year, even at national R5 level to get back into the swing of competition, gel with a new co-driver etc.
The driver line-up smacks of the last two unattached singles in a bar looking at each other just before closing time saying "how about it?"
Hobson's choice is another description. Google that one...
Am I the only one who doesn't understand why they would pick Lappi in stead of Suninen? IMO Suninen is performing better with far less experience than Lappi.
Lappi is much more complex driver with much more experience. He is fast on all surfaces. Suninen is young with great skills and perspective so his time will definitelly come.
What IF: Tommi is only offering part year deal, not full season?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Suninen says NO, he wants full season, Lappi takes part year deal.
It´s possible that they don´t give any drivers name next Wednesday or just Juho who is free agent.
Maybe Suninen doesn't want to go with Tommi?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I have heard Lappi and Hänninen will drive the whole season and there could possibly be a third car with a part-season programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex