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Hi everyone :)
I'm also searching some old results, I'll post here what I need, answer me when You have time:
1955
Tulip - 6th, 7th, 9th
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
1956
RAC - 7th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th to 10th
Adriatic - 1st, 6th to 10th
1957
Tulip - 7th, 10th
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
Thanks in advance for any answer :)
Thank,Americo.Help me for ERC - 1966 :5/Alpenfart - 5 and 10 th ;7/Geneve - 8-9 th ;8/Vltava - 10 th ;9/Wisbaden - 3-10 th ;; ERC - 1967 :5/Pneumant - 4 and 9 th ;7/Alpenfart - 7 th ;15/RACE - 6-7 th ;; ERC - 1968 :2/Pneumant - 4,8-9 th ;5/Danube - 7 th ;7/Geneve - 6 and 10 th ;;ERC - 1969 : 8/RAC - 10 th ;; ERC - 1970 - 2:Pneumant - 3 and 10 th ;3/Circuit of Irland - 10 th ;6/Wisbaden - 5 th ;7/Bodensee - 4 th ;8/Lorean - 3 th ;10/Geneve - 9 th ;12/Raid Polski - 7 th ;15/San Martino di K. - 6-7 th ;17/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 4 and 6 th ;19/1000 Minuti - 10 th ;22/Belgia - 9 th.Americo ,Write me your calendar for ERC - 1964 .
Here's what I have...Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
1955
Tulip - 6th, 7th, 9th
6. #131 Walter Schlüter (DEU)/Siegfried Eickelmann (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
7. #79 Peter Harper (GBR)/John Cutts (GBR) - Sunbeam Talbot 90 -
9. #209 Greta Molander (NLD)/Monica Kjerstadius (NLD) - Saab 92B -
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
6. #92 Jo Bonnier (SWE)/Bo Boësen (SWE) - Alfa Romeo 1900 -
7. #165 Åke Thambert (SWE)/Mario Pavoni (SWE) - Fiat 1100 TV -
8. #169 Harry Bengtsson (SWE)/Åke Righard (SWE) - Volkswagen -
9. #163 Thure Jansson (SWE)/Lennart Jansson (SWE) - Fiat 1100 TV -
10. #132 Martin Carstedt (SWE)/Gully Carstedt (SWE) - Ford Taunus 15M
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
6. #27 Robert Leidgens (BEL)/Freddy Rousselle (BEL) - Triumph TR2 -
1956
RAC - 7th to 10th (for me too, missing results...)
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th to 10th
7. #??? Roger de Lageneste (FRA)/Michel Nicol (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #66 Georges Harris (BEL)/Jean-Marie Jacquemin (BEL) - Volvo PV444 -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/Lucien Bianchi (BEL) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
10. #??? «Bessey» (FRA)/Bernard Pichon (FRA) - Triumph -
Adriatic - 1st, 6th to 10th (missing results 7-10th)
1. #??? Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Porsche 356A 1300S
6. #??? Vaclav Ovorka (CSK)/Viktor Mraz (CSK) - Skoda
1957
Tulip - 7th, 10th
7. #138 Jimmy Ray (GBR)/Ian Hall (GBR) - Sunbeam Rapier -
10. #63 Max Riess (DEU)/Gottlieb Küfner (DEU) - Mercedes-Benz 220SE
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th (Missing 7,8,10)
6. #??? Carl-Magnus Skogh (SWE)/Rolf Skogh (SWE) - Saab 93B -
9. #??? Alan Borgefors (SWE)/B. Andersson (SWE) - Porsche 356 -
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
6. #??? René Cotton (FRA)/Jacques Leclère (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900 -
Best Regards
Américo!
Hi Stanislav...Quote:
Originally Posted by stanislav197
Some stuff for you:
1966 :
5/Alpenfart - 5 and 10 th
5. #??? E. Buchbauer (DEU)/Geri Brandstetter (DEU) - Renault 8 Gordini - 2115,97 pts
10. #??? Oldrich Horsák (CSK)/Miroslav Fousek (CSK) - Skoda Octavia -
7/Geneve - 8-9 th
8. #??? Charles Ramu (CHE)/C. Maurice (CHE) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
9. #??? Georges Theiler (CHE)/Erich Bechtel (CHE) - Mini Cooper S -
8/Vltava - 10 th
10. #??? Dieter Lambart (DEU)/W. Zink (DEU) - Opel Kadett Coupé -
9/Wisbaden - 3-10 th
3. #??? Joachim Springer (DEU)/J. Schey (DEU) - BMW 2000 Ti - 2700.6 pts
4. #??? Sobieslaw Zasada (POL)/Kazimierz Osinski (POL) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -
5. #??? Karl-Heinz Panowitz (DEU)/Rainer Strunz (DEU) - NSU ****el Spider -
6. #??? T. Klinck (DEU)/??? Menehem (DEU) - Glas 1300GT -
7. #??? H. Leidl (DEU)/Ulrich Hering (DEU) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -
8. #??? Paul Roeder (DEU)/P. Schutz (???) - NSU ****el Spider -
9. #??? Hans Supper (DEU)/??? Sutter (DEU) - Glas 1300GT -
10. #??? R. Lieb (DEU)/??? Buchrich (DEU) - Porsche 911-S -
1967 :
5/Pneumant - 4 and 9 th
4. #??? Kenneth Gram-Nielsen (SWE)/M. Sørensen (SWE) - Mini Cooper S -
9. #??? Jan Lander Andersen (DNK) - Fiat 1500 -
7/Alpenfart - 7 th
7. #??? Walter Roser (FRA)/B. Andrieu (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini
15/RACE - 6-7 th
6. #??? José-Maria Juncadella (ESP)/S. Molist (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
7. #14 Jorge de Bagration (ESP)/J. Bárcenas (ESP) - Lancia Fulvia HF -
1968 :
2/Pneumant - 4,8-9 th
4. #??? Kenneth Gram-Nielsen (SWE)/M. Sørensen (SWE) - Mini Cooper S -
8. #??? Walter Roser (AUT)/R. Kec (???) - Renault 8 Gordini -
9. #??? Václav Bobek (CSK)/H. Bobek (CSK) - Skoda 1100MB -
5/Danube - 7 th
7. #??? Günter Bohrn (AUT)/Hans Gubier (AUT) - Opel Kadett -
7/Geneve - 6 and 10 th
6. #??? Jean-Jacques Cochet (CHE)/??? Feuz (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
1969 :
8/RAC - 10 th
10. #26 Lasse Jönsson (SWE)/P. Lindström (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 - 501:21"
1970 :
2:Pneumant - 3 and 10 th
3. #??? Gilber Casseljo (SWE)/C. Olsson (SWE) - Ford Capri -
10. #??? Eberhard Ehrlich (GDR)/Dieter Schöne (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -
3/Circuit of Irland - 10 th
10. #??? Bror Danielsson (SWE)/Sven-E. (SWE) - Opel Kadett Rally 1.9 - 932.5 pts
6/Wisbaden - 5 th
5. #??? Klaus Miersch (DEU)/??? Agethen (DEU) - Opel Kadett Rally 1.9 -
7/Bodensee - 4 th
4. #??? Heribert Neger (AUT)/??? Sternecker (AUT) - BMW 2002 Tii
8/Lorean (Lorraine : a very nice french region)- 3 th
3. #??? Jacques Henry (FRA)/Roger Lauer (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
10/Geneve - 9 th
9. #??? ??? Meier (???)/??? Bianchi (???) - Porsche 911R -
12/Raid Polski - 7 th
7. #??? Ulf Sundberg (SWE)/D. Jonsson (SWE) - Lancia Fulvia
15/San Martino di Castrozza - 6-7 th
6. #??? Alberto Smania (ITA)/??? Borsetto (ITA) - Fiat 125-S -
7. #??? "Giampietro" (ITA)/??? Borsoi (ITA) - Porsche 911-S -
17/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 4 and 6 th
4. #??? Achim Warmbold (DEU)/R. Kec (???) - Opel Kadett GT -
6. #??? Walter Roser (AUT)/Leopold Mayer (AUT) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
19/1000 Minuti - 10 th
10. #??? F.M. Kerschbaum (AUT)/R. Sedlácek (CSK) - BMW 2002 Tii - 5148.9 pts
22/Belgia - 9 th
9. #??? ??? Vanhunessel (BEL)/??? Demay (BEL) - Porsche 911-S -
calendar for ERC - 1964 .
1. 18/01 a 24/01 : 33° Rally Automobile de Monte Carlo (MCO)
2. 27/02 a 01/03 : 4. Rallye dei Fiori (ITA)
3. 21/04 a 23/04 : 16º Rally das Tulipas (NLD)
4. 21/05 a 24/05 : 12º Acropolis Rally (GRC)
5. 29/05 a 31/05 : 35º Rali dos Alpes Austríacos (AUT)
6. 09/06 a 13/06 : 15° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen (SWE)
7. 22/06 a 27/06 : 25. Coupe des Alpes (FRA)
8. 30/07 a 03/08 : 24° Rali da Polónia (POL)
9. 14/08 a 16/08 : 14° Rally dos 1000 Lagos (FIN)
10. 25/08 a 29/08 : 23º Marathon de la Route/Liège Sofia Liège (BEL)
11. 15/10 a 18/10 : 33º Rali de Genève (CHE)
12. ??/11 a ??/11 : 11º Rali Internacional do ACP (PRT)
13. 08/11 a 13/11 : 13° RAC Rally (GBR)
best regards
Américo
Many thanks Américo! :)
One thing about nationality: are You sure Greta Molander (Tulip 1955) was Dutch? According to me she was Swedish.
Now I'd like to know these results: answer me when You have time.
1956
Tulip - 6th to 10th
1957
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
(sorry, I forgot to ask about those 2)
1958
German - 6th, 7th, 9th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
ACP - top 10 (someone says it was a ERC rally, someone says it wasn't...)
1959
Tulip - 6th, 9th, 10th
Midnight Sun - 6th, 8th, 9th
German - 6th, 8th, 9th
RAC - 7th to 10th
ACP - 6th to 10th
Thanks in advance for any answer.
Greta Molander is Norway.
Seems like she was born in Sweden, but then married a Norwegian, and so she moved to Norway and took their nationality. So yes, she was Norwegian, thank you Stanislav ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stanislav197
Thank,Americo .Help me for ERC-1971 :9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ;12/Danube - 5 and 10 th ;;ERC-1972 :2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th ;3/Neyge et Glas - 7-9 th ;5/Pneumant - 5-10 th ;6/Firestown - 8-9 th ;8/Scotish -5 th ;17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th ;24/Belgia - 7-10 th ;;ERC-1973 :2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th ;4/Firestown - 10 th ;5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ;6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th ;7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th ;11/ Semperit - 7 th ;12/Scotish - 10 th ;19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th ;20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th ;21/Race - 7-10 th ;
Remember, the nationality on an entry list is the country of the ASN that issued the driver's licence not the country of birth of the driver. The nationality of a driver on the entry list of a rally can be different from the nationality on the passport. Look at some entry lists from the 1970's and you will see Ari Vatanen & Pentti Airikkala as GB but I bet their passports always said FIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
This was particularly common on the Safari. The local drivers were nearly all expatriates with foreign citizenship. They were always given the 'nationality' of the country they were resident in regardless of their true nationality. If in the course of his employment a driver moved from one country to another his 'nationality' could change from year to year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
I can see problems occurring in future with the break up of Yugoslavia and the USSR and in reverse with the unification of Germany.
This is one reason why I always encourage database compilers to include a 'Remarks' or 'Comments' field.
I had this discussion with a friend recently who pointed out that the FIA have now changed the rule, but only for world championship events, so that the nationality matches the passport. Particularly so that the flag next to the driver's name on the car looks right. Why they didn't do it for all international events is anyone's guess.
Problem still remains that you can hold more than one passport and, separately, some smaller countries are not affiliated to the FIA anyway, as it's too expensive for the amateur clubs involved and the motorsport they organise is not entirely (or at all in some cases) controlled by the FIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
One example is the country who's flag I use on here. An independent nation for 31 years, once a British "colony". A race driver I know is wholly resident there and has no UK property but has raced in the UK (and still does) and other countries for over 40 years with a UK MSA-issued licence.
The FIA may know the exact status of a small group of licence holders in F1 etc. but cannot possibly check every place of residence or birth qualification of every licence holder. (and long may it continue - we've passed "1984" and "Big Brother" is still no more than a moronic TV programme. We have enough other problems with "The Nanny State")
So, sorry rally history statisticians, as we have said before on here, you will never have wholly reliable data in that respect.
It is not up to the FIA to verify the nationality of a competitor, the onus relies on the event organiser to check at documentation. Currently licences are checked and the nationality verified that way on international events. Presumably you are also expected to produce a passport at signing-on at world championship events.
Regarding former colonies, historically the RAC was the ASN for the British Empire and as nations like Canada, Australia &c developed their own motorsport organisations the RAC ceeded its control in those nations. The MSA as the successor to the RAC is still the ASN for any of the bits of Empire left over that haven't sorted out their own governing body. Under the FIA rules as they stand your friend can use his flag on national events, should use a Union Flag on internationals but, depending on his passport, might be able to use his Antigua & Barbuda flag on world championship events.
Incidentally I've never seen anyone query the use of a Welsh dragon or Saltire on a rally car but I can't see how their use would be covered on an international event as Wales & Scotland neither issue passports or competition licences!
Was writing about F1 -where the FIA are wholly responsible for administration of Superlicences, not National bodies or event organisers. Any "grandfather" rights of MSA for remaining colonies cannot cover Independent nations. No one has ever asked me for a passport at signing on for World Championship events, leave alone other Internationals! The recent fuss over Belgians Stefaan Stouf and Jorris Errard registering for the British Historic Championship was not really resolved properly, just fudged, and I'm not convinced the solution is compliant with the regs, however much everyone wants them here. I also object to Welsh, Scottish and English flags on cars - it's as much an abuse as the attempt to make all EU National events automatically open to all National EU licence holders was. NEAFP is another fudge that bought off then FIA with the fee payable...
Back to topic - we've covered it before on here - historians must accept they will never get a perfectly accurate record of true nationality from event entry lists/results.
Agreed - all you will ever be able to ascertain is the nationality that was published on the enty list or results at the time - which may or may not have been correct!
On entry List Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975
What pilots, co driver and car for these numbers
N°1
N°4
N°6
N°8
N°10
N°11
N°18
N°20
N°22
N°30
N°34
N°54
N°55
N°101
N°102
N°105
N°115
Many Thanks
[email:p3141r0z]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:p3141r0z]
For Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975 : 1,4,6,810,11,18,20,22,30,54,101 - not start. 34.Ilia Chubrikov BG-Kolio Chubrikov BG - Renault 12 Gordini ; 55. Kent Janson SWE -Ake Daliov SWE - Saab V 4 ; 102. Dieter Shulc FRG - Alfred Hofman FRG - Fiat 128 ; 105. Andrash Nagi HUN - Lajos Kovac HUN - Fiat 128 ; 115. Franz Gale GDR - Heinz Gale GDR - Trabant 601 . Stanislav
Hi Stanislav,Quote:
Originally Posted by stanislav197
According to Zlatni'75. Who drove with numbers: 25, 53, 100, 104, 114, and what numbers had Karl-Heinz Weigel/Gerhard Bedrich (DDR) Wartburg 353 and Maciej Stawowiak/Jan Czyżyk (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600 as well as Janusz Książkiewicz/Józef Ważny (PL) Polski Fiat 125p and Ryszard Nowicki/Wojciech Schramm (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600?
Regards
Janusz
András Nagy - Lajos KovácsQuote:
Originally Posted by stanislav197
Many Thanks Stanislav, perhaps you know for Zlatni 1976 who is number ? just on entry list perhaps ?
N°5
N°10
N°12
N°23
N°29
N°30
N°35
N°36
N°41
N°45
N°48
N°50
N°52
N°54
N°55
N°57
N°58
N°62
N°63
N°65
N°66
N°70
N°71
N°73
N°74
N°79
N°85
N°86
N°87
N°88
N°89
N°91
N°93
N°94
N°95
N°97
N°98
N°99
N°101
N°102
N°105
N°110
N°111
N°113
Unlike of Zlatni 1975 ,for Rally Zlatni 1976 have no full starting list.I have no these numbers ,except 50.George Yovchev BG -Jordan Mollov BG - Moskvich 412.
For the Poland Rally 1995, I dont have these numbers N°20, N°37, N°39, N°64, N°69. Perhaps not attribued on entry list, if someone can help me ?
You are right, those numbers were "empty" on the entry list.Quote:
Originally Posted by cvhi
Regards
Janusz
I am researching the brief Rally career of the Jaguar 3.5 litre Mk5 car ( i own one ) A Mk5 came 3rd 1951 and 5th 1953 on the Monte, driven by Irishman Cecil Vard. ( Google "Cecil Vard Irish Rally" for a pic of Mk5 and Cecils Achievements )
Whilst not the fastest of cars its 3.5 litre pushrod engine produced 125 bhp / 200 lbs/ft Torque...it had excellent roadholding with 50/50 weight balance.
Info required on any of the below.....
In 1951 7 Mk5,s entered the Monte.. 6 from Glasgow and 1 from Madrid ..i am seeking info on car 227 a Mr Hole.... car 241 Reggie Tongue ( a famous Racing driver of the period )
The Spanish driver was Sig. E. Descals Juncusa with A. Rogue/Rivero. car 121.
1952 Car 90 D. Warwick / F Warwick.
!953 Car 136 H Harrop / T. Saxton... Manchester area ?
1954 Car 187 L.S. Norman / D. Farquarson Leicester area ?
Car 232 Handley / Lucas Dudley area ?
In Sweden in 1952 A. Mr Hagstom entered a Mk 5 on the Midnightsun car no 19 Regisration A 56985.....any knowledge on this out there ?
Any leads on info / living family members/ photos greatly Appreciated.
The Mk5,s legacy was Ronnie Adams winning the 1956 Monte with a Mk7 Jaguar....the Mk7 inherited the Mk5,s chassis...the Mk7 benefitting from the "New " 3.4 litre 165 bhp. Twin overhaed cam engine...
The Mk5,s Rallying in the UK and Monte was in the limelight of the success of the XK120 on Alpine and other Major events ( Not eligible for Monte ) and Jaguars Le Mans success,s of all of the 1950,s. ,, and the Mk5,s brief success,s have not been fully reported on....so any clues greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ed Abbott
Best RegardsQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Américo
ERC-1971 :Quote:
Originally Posted by stanislav197
9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ; (Missing too)
4. #??? Florian Vetsch (CHE)/??? Olivier (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
12/Danube - 5 and 10 th;
5. #??? Heinz Böck (AUT)/H. Kohlbacher (AUT) - Mazda RX-2 -
10. #??? Stefan Iancovici (ROM)/V. Ficiu (ROM) - Renault 8 Gordini -
ERC-1972
2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th
6. #59 Jorge Babler (ESP)/Ernesto Borau (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
8. #60 Javier Brugué (ESP)/J. Roset (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
10. #21 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/R. Vial (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
3/Néige et Glace - 7-9 th
7. #??? Jean Ragnotti (FRA)/??? Coche (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
8. #??? ??? Charpentier (FRA)/??? Pierre (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -
9. #??? Jean-Christophe Court-Payen (FRA)/??? del Negri (FRA) - Opel Kadett
5/Pneumant - 5-10 th (missing too)
6/Firestone - 8-9 th
8. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Pancho» (ESP)/??? Sánchez (ESP) - Ford Capri 2600 -
8/Scotish -5 th
5. #14 Ingvar Carlsson (SWE)/Ingemar Carlsson (SWE) - BMW 2002 Tii -
17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th
9. #??? Bengt Sorensen (DNK)/??? Petersen (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -
24/Belgia - 7-10 th (missing too)
ERC-1973 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F.J. Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts
4/Firestone - 10 th
10. #49 Fernando Lezama (ESP)/Juan M. Casas (ESP) - Seat 1430 -
5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Franco Ceccato (ITA)/Loris Roggia (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye -
6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
2. #??? Eamonn Cotter (IRL)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
6. #??? David Lindsay (GBR)/Jack Cunningham (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
9. #??? ??? Bridges (GBR)/Brendan Doyle (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Thomas Lawther (GBR)/??? Brown (GBR) - Mini Cooper S -
7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
8. #??? Frank Pierson (GBR)/Colin Francis (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Bob Bean (GBR)/David Greenwood (GBR) - Ford Escort Mexico -
11/ Semperit - 7 th
7. #??? Erich Haberl (AUT)/Martin Pucher (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -
12/Scotish - 10 th
10. #??? David Thompson (GBR)/Maurice Isley (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th (10th missing too)
5. #??? Jürgen Kaufhold (DEU)/??? Schucan (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S -
20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th (Only have top6)
4. #??? Mihalis Koumas (GRC)/Tony Watson (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -
5. #??? George Booty (GBR)/Derek Smith (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -
21/Race - 7-10 th
7. #??? «Crady» (ESP)/Victor Fernández (ESP) - Porsche 914/6 -
8. #??? «Squalo Rivero» (ESP)/José Goyanes (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Gekados» (ESP)/Miguel Gascón (ESP) - Seat 1430 -
10. #??? Valerio Alonso (ESP)/M. Alonso (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 Especial -
Best Regards
Américo.
Hi Guys,
Regardin ERC results, has you've seen I have also some missing results...
Those seem realy hard to find, Here's my list, If somebody can fill those holes...
56, RAC: 7-10th
56, Midnattssolen 7-10th
56, Adriatico 7-10th
57, Midnattssolen: 6-8th and 10th
58, Wisbaden: 6,7,9th
59, Wiesbaden 6,8,9 th
59, RAC Rally 7-10th
59, ACP-Aveiro Estoril 6-10th
71, Genève 7,9,10th
72, Pneumant 5-8, 10th
72, Tour de Belgique 7-10th
73, YU Rally 10th
73, Paris-St Raphael 6-10th
73, Cyprus 7-10th
73, München-Wien-Budapest 10th
74, San Marino 7-10th
74, Danube 7,9-10th
74, Lugano 7-10th
74, OASC 7-10th
75, Polar Bergslags 9-10th
76, Lucien Bianchi 7-10th
77, OASC 2-10th
77, Bosfore 6-10th
And Only Makes Chpship...
69, Baltic 3-10th
Best regards,
Américo.
Thanks Américo :)
The results you are searching seems indeed very hard too find, unfortunately I have noone of them (I suppose you have the 6th of Midnight Sun 1957, since you gave him to me earlier).
Now I would need these results:
1960
Tulip - 6th
1961
Tulip - 6th
Acropolis - 6th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 4th and 5th
1962
Tulip - 7th and 9th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6th
1963
Tulip - 8th
1964
Fiori - 3rd to 5th
Tulip - 4th, 5th, 7th to 10th
1965
Tulip - 6th
Munich-Wien-Budapest - 6th
Answer me when you have time and sorry again for not being able to help.
Thanks in advance.
I can't add more this time, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by sednem
Regards
Janusz
RegardsQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Janusz
One other result: W H Waring and W H Wadham finished 9th in the 1951 Monte Carlo rally, start number 254, registration JAA 915
Thank you januszsz
Could you please post the top 10 of Tulip Rally 1963? Because you have Donald Morley in 8th and I have him in 7th, but I trust more in your results :)
Thanks in advance
01 Henri Greder F Marcial Delalande F No27 Ford Falcon SprintQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
02 Paddy Hopkirk IRL Henry Liddon GB No130 Morris Mini Cooper
03 Gunnar Andersson S Lennart Berggren S Volvo 122 S
04 L.H. Bakker NL Heinz Umbach NL Porsche Carrera S 90
05 Alfred Kling D Georg Kaufmann A No148 DKW F11
06 E.H. Swart NL Roberto Fusina I Fiat 1300
07 Tom Trana S Mario Pavoni S Volvo 122 S
08 Donald Morley GB Erle Morley GB Austin-Healey 3000
09 Peter Harper GB Ian Hall GB Sunbeam Rapier
10 André Guilhaudin F Henri? Balas F DKW F11
Regards
Janusz
Hello D-Type...thanks for that but i already had that info... so didnt bother to Ask, i am in contact with the 3rd Member of that team Dougie Sharp..who hopefuly will fill me in with more info as Wally Waring and Wilf Wadham have passed on..
Later in 1951 they entered the RAC in June...coming 9th in class....there was other Mk5,s on the 1951 RAC driven by S Oakes...DG. Warwick and maybe a L. Rogers and P. Herbert.
Mk5,s probably did the 52.53 and for sure the 1954 .Mr R.G Blackhurst car no. 20 was there. again any info on these RAC competitors appreciated.
That's curious. The information I gave came from a book by Philip Porter. I would have expected a historian of his stature to have included the names of all three of the car's crew and not just two of them. Maybe it's because it's a photo caption which didn't get the same degree of scrutiny and proof reading that the main text of a book does.
So here's what I have for you...Quote:
Originally Posted by januszsz
ERC-1972
Costa Brava start numbers for top 10
#6, #30, #5, #58, #40, #59, #31, #60, #34, #21
ERC-1973 :
Costa Brava
Do you have start numbers and final points for other top 10 drivers here?
I'll give you full...
1. #2 Sandro Munari (ITA)/Mario Mannucci (ITA) - Lancia Fulvia 1.6 Coupé HF - 15465.0 pts
2. #1 Raffaele Pinto (ITA)/Arnaldo Bernacchini (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye - 15715.8 pts
3. #3 Sobieslaw Zasada (POL)/Ryszard Zyszkowski (POL) - Porsche 911-S - 16537.0 pts
4. #5 Sergio Barbasio (ITA)/Gino Macaluso (ITA) - Fiat 124 Spider - 16601.6 pts
5. #10 Juan De Cruylles (ESP)/Antonio Duran (ESP) - Seat 124 Spider - 17757.0 pts
6. #61 José Maria Xiol (ESP)/Joan Arnella (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 18075.6 pts
7. #54 Pedro Bonet (ESP)/Eudaldo Bonet (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 18661.7 pts
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F???? Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts
Firestone - 10 th
Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?
#2, #24, #12, #6, #16, #18, #8, #7, #44, #49
5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ... - I have Pino Ceccato and Baggio...
my mistake... :(
6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
Do you have positions 4th, 5th and 7th?
4. #??? Dessie McCartney (IRL)/Drexel Gillespie (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
7. #??? Rosemary Smith (IRL)/Ricky Foote (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
For sure those guys are from The Welsh Rally'73
My Mistake... a bad Copy+paste... :(
8. #19 P. Driessen (NLD)/G. Haanen (NLD) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #43 Cees Hoogendoorn (NLD)/T. de Bruin (NLD) - Alfa Romeo 1600 Super -
Best regards
Américo.
Hi Americo,
Many thanks for your delivery. One more question: do you have data on RACE'71? I need start numbers of 5th Ruiz-Gimenez and 8th Henry. There was probably polish driver Smorawiński with BMW. Do you know something more what happened to him. Maybe you know his number?
Regards
Janusz
Thank you januszszQuote:
Originally Posted by januszsz
Now I'd like to know these results:
1966
Fiori - 6th and 8th
1968
Wiesbaden - 6th to 10th
1969
KAK - top 10
1970
Tour de Corse - 6th, 8th to 10th
1971
Semperit - 7th
Scottish - 6th to 10th
Geneva - 7th, 9th and 10th (seems very hard to find...)
1972
Pneumant - 5th to 8th
Belgique - 7th to 10th
Answer me when you have time :)
Thanks in advance
RegardsQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Janusz
Thank you januszsz
Now I'd like to know these results (probably don't have them all, but I'll post them anyway, if someone else can help me...)
1973
Danube - 3rd
Baltic - 6th to 10th
Munich-Wien-Budapest - 10th
RACE - 2nd to 6th
1974
San Marino - 7th to 10th
Hessen - 7th to 10th
Ypres - 7th, 9th, 10th
Danube - 7th, 9th, 10th
Baltic - 10th
Tour de France - 6th to 10th
Lugano - 7th to 10th
OASC - 7th to 10th
1975
Lyons-Charbonnieres - 6th, 7th
Welsh - 6th to 10th
Criterium Alpin - 3rd, 6th to 10th
RACE - 9th, 10th
Answer me when you have time :)
Thanks in advance