I am 100% behind that! The only problem would be finding a group of stewards who understand the entire FIA rulebook. They would probably all end up being attorneys! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by passmeatissue
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I am 100% behind that! The only problem would be finding a group of stewards who understand the entire FIA rulebook. They would probably all end up being attorneys! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by passmeatissue
People might hate whatever causes them pain (physical or not).Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
It's something we all do feel, voluntarily or not.
Why not in relation with F1?
Because I think hatred goes way over the top when applied to an F1 team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
This is something that I just don't understand and is completely beyond my comprehension. I have loved Ferrari from when I was a kid, and have always dreamed of owning a Red Ferrari one day (OK, dream on :( )Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
But during SchM era with Ferrari, I do admit that my dislike for SchM resulted in my cheering for Williams (When Jacques drover there) then Mika later on.
Having said all that, there are 3 scenarios which McLaren's appeal can end up with:
1. Do nothing, and Kimi is Champion
2. Find both BMW and Williams guilty of a fuel temperature infraction and disqualify both cars from the results and give them a fine, plus grid penalties for the next year, but the drivers do not lose their positions or points.
3. Disqualify both Williams and BMW and move Lewis Hamilton up 3 places, thus giving him the championship.
Like it or not, things can go one of the three ways, and the last one will be the most unpopular with F1 fans, I suspect.
It would probably be a good idea for some of the fans to examine their attitudes. There is a big difference between disliking a person or team and hating them!Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I think the terms are sometimes used interchangeably, but they are not the same. I might dislike Ron Dennis, for example, but I don't hate him. Hatred could be construed as wishing him bodily harm or death! That's pretty extreme when we're discussing a sport! F1 isn't life or death despite the way some "fans" act!
I was listening to 5Live's podcast review of the Brazilian GP last night where this fuel/McLaren appeal issue was being discussed by David Croft, Maurice Hamilton and Peter Windsor. Interesting stuff :up:
If I read that post correctly, outwardly stating you hate Ferrari means any subsequent post by that person will be worthless, but you then go on to state that he is right for saying what he said, even though he said he hates McLaren/RD?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Surely, by applying your reasoning, his argument is 'nil'?
Or am I missing something?
My 'jolly hockey sticks' post was merely a reference to the spirit in which the particular post was made. No jibe, no chstening, just a general comment......
Yes that would make his posts about McLaren to be pretty much disregarded because of his feelings towards them. However there are another 10 teams in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
In the past there was, and I believe there still is, hatred towards Ferrari expressed around here. But very very few would say it as directly as he did it. I call it hypocrisy, from the part of these people, as their feeling are obvious still they maintain that they have an objective view about F1.
I wouldn't go down that road.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
Hate is a pretty strong word, but I do not associate it with bodily harm or death. If I hate something (or someone, which is very rare) than I simply wish I don't see it anymore. But certainly don't imagine doing any harm to anything or anyone.
Just my 2c.
I agree. Such language gets thrown around very loosely nowadays, and not just when discussing F1. Hatred is too strong an emotion to have against an F1 team you don't 'support' (a concept that I also find strange, but never mind).Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot