2015 News and Results

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

The fact that Kopecky had competition with local knowledge in Barum is irrelevant according to Mr Kajto i guess...

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It's not Kajto's fault that there are no drivers wih local knowledge in the WRC. Isn't it FIA that discourages them from competing in their home ralles?

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I get what you're trying to say but you've massively over-simplified the situation.

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Yes, of course, I over-simplified the situation. Don't take it seriously - I made it for fun :)
But still, there is some truth in that what Kajto says.

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

It's not Kajto's fault that there are no drivers wih local knowledge in the WRC. Isn't it FIA that discourages them from competing in their home ralles?

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no, but then he should not have used a rally where no locals took part with a rally where local knowledge is almost everything. And if he doesn't have the brains to do proper comparisons then he should just shut up.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

no, but then he should not have used a rally where no locals took part with a rally where local knowledge is almost everything.

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I know what you mean, but there are no local drivers in WRC2. When you compare WRC2 with ERC, you will always end up with such results.

There was Kreim (Skoda Deutschland) in WRC2 Germany. But we can't say that german rallying is high-levelled.

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Originally Posted by vino_93

There was Kreim (Skoda Deutschland) in WRC2 Germany. But we can't say that german rallying is high-levelled.

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Kreim still isn´t European top, he´s very young and inexperienced.

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Originally Posted by WUff1

Kreim still isn´t European top, he´s very young and inexperienced.

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So what could Kopecky do? He simply knocked him out! ;)
(+ 16 minutes on the finish line)

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

So what could Kopecky do? He simply knocked him out! ;)
(+ 16 minutes on the finish line)

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That's not totally fair to Kreim either. He retired in one leg (I don't remember why) and changed tyre on both runs of Panzerplatte. I don't think You can judge from one rally against another rally. You can pick Sardegna and say that Kopecký is slower than Al-Attiyah. You can do a lot of thing if You want to push Your agenda. Only direct fights gives You the right answer.

Anyway it is sad and funny same time, Kopecky is one level faster than in 2007, in top shape, he is consistent on gravel and TOP on tarmac and he can win nearly every championship in the world except WRC (damned Ogier :D) but he has to wait what Skoda allow him to do...but anyway being European and Asian-Pacific champion he is already half-world champion :D

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I get what you're trying to say but you've massively over-simplified the situation.

The level of WRC2 is not very high. I don't think anyone is denying that. After the top talents there is a real drop-off in ability - but at least you have a decent championship battle across the course of a season. Albeit a battle that no one can see unless you're actually on the stages.

The ERC can give you a bigger fight on some individual rallies and obviously you are competing for the overall win. ERC benefits from lots of local talent in places like Estonia, Barum, Ireland etc. But let's not kid ourselves - move these drivers out of their home specialized rallies and and for the most part they would nowhere.

Just look at the championship tables and of both and then talk about level of competition.

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The way I see it, the level of competition on individual rallies is (mostly) higher in ERC than in WRC2, as has been the way for a number of years also comparing IRC to SWRC. For a developing driver being in tight competition is really important. I'm not really sure the championship battle for WRC2 is really better than ERC this year, it's down to two guys in each really and in WRC2 one of them missed the first four rounds.

Of course WRC2 is good for learning the events for the future. I think the approach that Lappi has been through is a good one - winning ERC and then moving on to WRC2 to learn the rallies before progressing to WRC.

BTW, the driver with the most points per event started in WRC2 is.... Jan Kopecky.