[IRC] Cyprus Rally 2011

Lucky moment for Vizin

Neuville wins first run ! 5 seconds faster than Juho!

If you want to see results, so here - Golden Stage Rally 2011 - Results - Rally-Base

this is faster: Rally FICr

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Okay maybe I exaggerated to be honest but it's frustrating to here a driver like Kopecky moan about Andreas' 'luck' when Mikkelsen has been generally very unlucky this season. Yes he crashed a lot, but I believe the champion should be the fastest driver even if he makes a couple of errors - for example if Mikko ends up winning the WRC it would be almost a joke as he has been only the 4th or 5th fastest driver this year. Consistency is good, but speed is more important in deciding a deserving champion in my opinion.

Anyway, this should be more about celebrating Andreas' win, so I'm sorry for bringing Kopecky's bad sportsmanship into it.

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Hirvonen has never improved since Grönholm retired from the WRC. Hirvonen hasn't shown flashes of speed and he had 3 or 4 times teamorders in his favour this year. I don't know why he must be in this topic.

Kopecký has shown the speed on tarmac, there weren't teamorders in his favour and a 2nd place on gravel in Cyprus with another codriver isn't bad in my opinion. With all points systems in the past, Kopecký would be the logical champion.

Which bad sportsmanship do you mean?

Now we have an IRC champion who crashed much more than the other title contenders.

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Hirvonen has never improved since Grönholm retired from the WRC.

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LOL :)

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Originally Posted by VFTS

Mikkelsen will not start Golden Stage tomorrow.

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The party was huge I supose. :)

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

For example his win in Zlin was handed to him after Mikkelsen got unlucky with his car, but Andreas came back on Sunday and blitzed the stages.

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It was a puncture on Troják not a problem with his car.

You also keep playing with word luck. But why is someone who doesn't crash lucky and someone who crashes all the time unlucky? It may be a question of luck if it happens accidentally but if You crash/puncture in half of the events and the other one doesn't crash at all, it has nothing to do with luck but just with driving style and overall attitude. Kopecký is the guy for whom first target is to finish. For Andreas first target seems to be being the fastest. We saw that this brings very different results under different rules (just compare how Pons became SWRC champion and Mikkelsen became IRC champion). For IRC it's definitely better to risk as You have plenty of jokers to spent but still we are all human and someone just doesn't want to risk as much as the other. Now Andreas would have to step further and also find consistency because to success in WRC this flat out style can't work. Let's hope he is able to improve reliability. Speed is no question.

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

I've got a question... If the Golden Stage is won by a factory driver, for example Kopecky or Hanninen, what do they do with money? I mean, from the organisers' side the money go to personalities, driver+co-driver. However, in case of a factory crew, the driver uses not his own car, but a car provided to him by his team. In this sense, the prize (money) should be considered as a product of rent. In common life, if we take land in rent and grow vegetables in it, the vegetables (the A Product) is ours. If we borrow equipment and poroduce packaging for our vegetables (the B Product), it's also fully ours as long as we pay rent. But what about the Golden Stage? Who actually gets the money?))

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I think that this is a question of crew/team relationship. Could be different in each case.

Incredibly crazy drive by Neuville. What a crisis there in live...