Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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Originally Posted by Daniel

What is fake though? Personally I feel that all this aero BS is fake too and results in fake races where fake slow drivers can hold up fake fast drivers.

That people would rather see fake racing where no one passes anyone and results are based more or less on qualification and pit strategy rather than seeing fake racing where a driver who is better than another driver is able to pass him.

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I'm afraid I think your reasoning is a bit faulty here, Daniel. You seem to be suggesting that qualifying, for example, is a gimmick along the lines of DRS, when it is an intrinsic part of motor racing. There is simply no comparison between the two, even if said comparison is only being used to make a point.

I find it rather sad that there now seem to be those who have given up on the idea of good racing being produced through anything other than artificial means.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

If John enjoys a good procession then perhaps he should camp out in a cemetary non?

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No, Watson is right, in my opinion. No dry F1 race with that amount of overtaking has ever left me as cold as did Turkey, because I knew it was not happening for the right reasons.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

If John enjoys a good procession then perhaps he should camp out in a cemetary non?

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Included in the quote was this : "The tyre situation currently will provide enough in terms of drop off and strategy ..." .

He enjoys motor racing .

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

No, Watson is right, in my opinion. No dry F1 race with that amount of overtaking has ever left me as cold as did Turkey, because I knew it was not happening for the right reasons.

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I agree to a certain extent, but we're 4 races in and DRS has IMHO been overpowered during only 1 gp :)

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

No, Watson is right, in my opinion. No dry F1 race with that amount of overtaking has ever left me as cold as did Turkey, because I knew it was not happening for the right reasons.

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And , spot on BDunnell .

My feelings exactly .

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'm afraid I think your reasoning is a bit faulty here, Daniel. You seem to be suggesting that qualifying, for example, is a gimmick along the lines of DRS, when it is an intrinsic part of motor racing. There is simply no comparison between the two, even if said comparison is only being used to make a point.

I find it rather sad that there now seem to be those who have given up on the idea of good racing being produced through anything other than artificial means.

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I didn't mean to give that impression, I merely felt in the past that qualification had a little too much influence on where the driver finished in the race.

When talking about fake racing I was talking about the factors which up until this year made it very hard for cars to overtake other cars even when they were quite a bit faster.

Good racecar design and good racing are mutally exclusive things and measures need to be taken to ensure racing still happens. Does anyone here honestly think that if for instance Adrian Newey could design a feature into his cars to purposely disrupt the airflow going onto cars behind to make his cars nearly impossible to overtake, that Newey wouldn't put it on his cars? You could yammer on about it being the pinnacle of aero design, but if it screws up the racing then it screws up the racing.

If you ask me, the best thing that could happen to F1 would be to put a body over the wheels. Drivers wouldn't be too scared to put in a gutsy move for fear of losing a front wing or a wheel. I know people will slag me off for this but does it really matter if there's a body over the wheels? whether there are 6 wheels? v8's? v10's? As long as the racing is exciting then it doesn't matter. I agree that Turkey was boring because passing wasn't as difficult as it should be, but on other tracks I'm sure they'll get DRS right and it'll make for racing which isn't processional, but at the same time which doesn't involve easy passes.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

And , spot on BDunnell .

My feelings exactly .

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I agree too, but just because it was wrongly setup on one track doesn't mean that it will be the same on other tracks :)

Will it be the same percentage of successful deployment as we've had so far ?

That's a 25% failure rate . Are we to expect another 4 races that are spoiled ?
Does that include Monaco , where we already know it may create real problems ?

Are we looking forward to three quarters of a good season ?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Will it be the same percentage of successful deployment as we've had so far ?

That's a 25% failure rate . Are we to expect another 4 races that are spoiled ?
Does that include Monaco , where we already know it may create real problems ?

Are we looking forward to three quarters of a good season ?

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Bagwan, why can't you sit down and have a proper discussion rather than extrapolating your "data" and making ridiculous statements.

Frankly, without DRS I think some of the other races we had would be far more boring than they were.

For me, previous years were more like three quarters of a **** season where the order of qualification more or less dictated the end result of the race, rather than how fast the driver/car was on the day.

I get it, you don't like DRS, doesn't mean that everyone else hates it too, or that it will be as unbalanced as it was in Turkey for the rest of the season.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

John Watson's view :

“I think we've had a lot of substantial changes and obviously the tyre change has been the biggest factor. In the last GP, we saw a huge amount of overtaking, although maybe not a huge amount of motor racing. I always look to see motor racing and personally I don't need KERS or DRS – I don't feel they are necessary. The tyre situation currently will provide enough in terms of drop off and strategy and while there has been a lot of overtaking, I don't know how much of it has been what I would call motor racing."

Spot on , John .

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If that was JYS commenting, presumably you would dissagree with the old fart......?