now on every rally we should clear cookies to watch wrc+? On both PC for me they start to work only after that
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now on every rally we should clear cookies to watch wrc+? On both PC for me they start to work only after that
No problems for meQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Morning loop done and if I recall correctly WRC+ has missed all the action, no cows x2, no Meeke rim cracking (blue screen), no Loeb off, no Lappi spin. Ogier spin was the only shown in screen. Plus point for getting Loeb's Hyundai fixing session to screen.
Heart beat issue also appeared, but it seems to be more of a standard nowadays.
All Live does miss most drama's live and is getting tedious at times.
So few stage-side cameras means you dont get the real impression of speed. And of course the constant wittering from the comms is a PITA.
The fan vids of the shakedown were great - a real impact of speed and pure sound.
"The next rally, Tour de Corse, is set to be the first time that the LU600s have been involved in testing camera positions in advance of the event.
Signals are sent to the WRC TV production unit where the LiveU servers are situated, normally in the event service park. The content is then pulled into the edit suite as required. Rally stages are spread up to 250km around the service park at each event.
WRC Promoter director of content and production Florian Ruth said: “We are using LiveU in conjunction with our RF and satellite workflow, allowing us to significantly expand our coverage without having to worry about access to certain parts of events or rely on motorcycles to deliver the additional captured footage to us.
“In order to continue to fully engage existing viewers and to attract new audiences, we constantly need to innovate. Using LiveU is allowing us to think differently and to bring a fresh level of dynamism to our content as we can use locations at each event that simply weren’t possible previously. LiveU will also be able to deliver content directly to our production hub as we begin to move to remote production.”
Anyone notice any difference on day one ? I think I saw one live shot from a stage-side camera, so it's a no from me ...
I'm an idiot and couldn't even watch todau, but I don't see road side live cameras mentioned anywhere.
Not a single word about Suninen ahead of Ogier and fighting with the tarmac expert on the highlights?!? Disappointing,
No mention of him in red bull tv either. Weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Watched the highlights of day 1 on AllLive before this first stage of the day, they've got a new commentator who I recognise from the old IRC days on eurosport.
Like the way that the cringey faux live bullshit is no more. Proper old skool reporting/commentary which suits highlights the best. A positive sign (for me anyway).
Has Desborough been on this weekend at all?
Yeah but not a lot. Doing a few small bits of reporting and was commentating on the first stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
This new commentator really cool! If we can strike out Jon from any commentary in WRC it would be great!
it is Andrew Coley from WRX who was commentating SS7 with Becs Williams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9M4TTVF1AQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Anyone notice any difference with the new tech employed for WRC+ on TdC. Cant say I have.
Anybody else notice the added smoothness in the onboards on wrc+ this rally? Looks like they might be 60 fps now.
No. WRC+ still have 25fps 1280*720*25fps it's a "HD" with 2000kbpsQuote:
Originally Posted by gheeD
But they film 5 yrs or so in 50fps as original show, only cut for WRC+ to 25fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63w4kQFKKSw
When they show the live stages on Finnish TV, the frame rate is higher.
Broadcast HD standard in PAL is 50i.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Hmm, interesting. There is definitely a difference in the smoothness of the onboards for corsica, but going back to previous rallies happened to click on the shell v-power super specials on mexico and those also are very smooth playback, whilst other stages seem to be older-style less smooth playback.
edit: hmm maybe most of the mexico stages are smooth aswell. But Sweden and Monte are old style onboards that are definitely not so pleasing to watch
Desborough does the intro for the highlights and small parts, also does the "Free" Live stages which are 2-3 per weekend in commentary. Remeber the original WRCAllLive stuff?
Coley does the 24 min highlights this weekend and has been doing Live Coverage.
Very 2000's feeling watching the WRC coverage this weekend with his voice. It's excellent and his knowledge too and the way he expresses everything is just refreshing!
I know, I just described what you get in WRC+ when you click to "HD" label in settings. 1280*720 x 25fps x 2000kbpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
WRC Promoter director of content and production Florian Ruth said: “We are using LiveU in conjunction with our RF and satellite workflow, allowing us to significantly expand our coverage without having to worry about access to certain parts of events or rely on motorcycles to deliver the additional captured footage to us.
“In order to continue to fully engage existing viewers and to attract new audiences, we constantly need to innovate. Using LiveU is allowing us to think differently and to bring a fresh level of dynamism to our content as we can use locations at each event that simply weren’t possible previously."
This is the bit I was reading and hoping for more stage-side cameras.
I'm not even sure from the text you quoted whether it's about live images or quikcker recovery of recorded images.
They have, they are uploading the footage and broadcasted a few min laterQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I haven't tried this before but here on Corsica both today and yesterday I wanted to watch different "mediazone" segments and the last few mins are always missing. (typically interview with 2-3 drivers) and what is there is cut-off mid sentence.
Some thoughts on wrc+ coverage:
I think comparing to let's say a year ago there are clear improvements but they have been gradual so sometimes it's easy to miss them. Watching Corsica I was thinking that now the coverage is pretty good, I'm glad I signed up for the full year.
The things I like
- directing showing more relevant drivers where possible - I noticed several times cutting between Tanak and Evans when battling, or showing drivers as they go through the splits so commentators can make relevant comments (it's something that I wished for as showing cars go one by one on the same section gets boring)
- director and commentators better working together in general
- showing splits on screen
- Julian Porter - sometimes he rambles but he often makes good observations: strange behavior of cars, oversteer/understeer that drivers often confirm at end of stage, watches splits and deduces stuff (like Ogier faster on the dirty sections etc). Overall quite happy with him and the commentary/reporter team in general with a few exceptions (more on that later).
- fewer and fewer technical issues
- in Sweden they used picture in picture for stage end interviews, i quite liked that, is it gone?
Things I don't like
- Desborough - I get that he's trying to casual/color commentary but he talks too much, repeats the same things over and over (I have PTSD from hearing about Meeke's hometown)
- That damn RPM thing at the top of the screen - it's distracting and dumb, who thought of putting rally car RPM on a spinny disk thing at the top of the screen?!
Things to improve
- image quality
- "natural sounds" audio option - For F1 I use this when I get sick of Brundle
- less generic driver questions
I probably forgot something but overall I'm happy to pay for it especially now that it's quite a good era of WRC.
I've spoken to Becs and some production crew.
They are against "natural" sound option (at the moment).
The RPM graphic might change but I don't find it distracting...
Can everyone admit that Andrew Coley has to do WRC coverage? He's been awesome on the daily highlights, not as excited at Paul King - where for example, if PK were commentating the part of Loeb's small off, PK would have told us before that he was about to go off, and then when he does go off be all excited and throw all his commentary notes in the air! Whilst Coley is calm and projects his comments with ease. I believe in RX he's more high pitched and excited as it's (RX) 1000% Live Action non-stop! :rollseyes: So it's nice to hear Andrew Coley on WRC!! Reminds me of Mark who use to commentate in the early 2000's.
"They are against "natural" sound option (at the moment)."
WHY ???
I also liked Coley's commentary. He said on twitter "I was covering for someone this weekend, hope to do some more in future."
Coley was brilliant, he is a must be.
In the IRC era he was also the best English commentator by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Also, there might be one commentator we've had for many many years, not returning to the WRC. And it's not Jon.
It's always sad to see someone leave but I personally think the broadcast team needs more fresh blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
So true. It needs a total refresh and change to a serious style instead of all the blather and banter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I'm in a process of choosing new TV. Support of WRC+ might be one of the factors to be considered, so what are your experiences with WRC+ and Smart TVs?
Support for WRC+ was the only reason we bought a Fire TV box rather than Roku or Apple TV back in 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoN_cz
The WRC+ app is a piece of shit (actual human shit) and the programmers should be shot, but the Fire Stick itself is pretty great.
IMO, you should never, ever buy a TV for its built-in "smart" features. They'll be outdated even before you unpack it. Just get the best picture you can afford, and then spend $30 or $40 and buy a Fire Stick or Chromecast or whatever to plug into it.
Samsung smartTV's support WRC+ app and it work as good as on other devices. Also it's interface is really fast so I guess you wouldn't need any additional box for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoN_cz
I prefer Philips due to their ambilight, currently i have it with Android (model 50PUS7303/12), so WRC+ app plays like charm.
I went with the same Philips TV as you. Tested the WRC+ app and seems to work quite well.