Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

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Originally Posted by Mickey T

it seems that, if anything, there's more distance between the two cars at the start-finish line.

where's that advantage, then?

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It's called the concertina effect.....

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I genuinely don't believe that there is any bias evident towards Ferrari at all. Do we always have to either be biased or accuse others of it in spite of a lack of evidence?

However, I get the feeling that some here would only be happy if Hamilton had allowed Raikkonen to remain ahead of him until the flag.

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You may not Ben but plenty of others do.

Ralf is someone that may know better than us?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

It's called the concertina effect.....

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done much racing daniel?

more than, say, niki lauda?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

It's called the concertina effect.....

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So, if he would have left more of a gap, he would have got more of an advantage?

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Your arguement makes no sense.

In France Lewis didn't give position back to Vettel and was penalized with a drive through (and we were discussing here whether it was right or wrong). Now he gives position back and gets even a harsher penalty... (well, a drive through certainly doesn't last for 25 secs) - already in this there is no logic.

Hamilton is the first driver ever to get penalized despite giving rival's position back. :p :

Rewatch the battle between Massa and Kubica at Fuji last year. Both drivers were forced to take a shortcut several times, but kept fighting and passing each other in almost every corner. There are a lot more cases like that - none of them have been penalized. This is what is especially unlogical in punishing Hamilton. Oh well...

And then we complain there is lack of overtaking in F1. Position defender is allowed to do anything (wave ahead and push the other car off the track), attacker however...

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

So, if he would have left more of a gap, he would have got more of an advantage?

:confused:

Your arguement makes no sense.

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Stop telling people what they're saying......

You know that's not what I'm saying at all. Stop trolling for a remark from me. I'm wise to you and the ways in which you work :)

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I genuinely don't believe that there is any bias evident towards Ferrari at all. Do we always have to either be biased or accuse others of it in spite of a lack of evidence?

However, I get the feeling that some here would only be happy if Hamilton had allowed Raikkonen to remain ahead of him until the flag.

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Very true. We could rattle off countless arguments as to why the FIA are biased against/towards all of the teams if we wanted to. Hamilton getting picked up out of the kitty litter and put back on the track last year is clear evidence that the FIA are entirely biased towards McLaren :p

I've never seen bias at all either, just bad decisions.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

You may not Ben but plenty of others do.

Ralf is someone that may know better than us?

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If he is willing to provide some hard evidence of pro-Ferrari bias rather than a vague suggestion of it, then I will believe it. Until then, I won't.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Very true. We could rattle off countless arguments as to why the FIA are biased against/towards all of the teams if we wanted to. Hamilton getting picked up out of the kitty litter and put back on the track last year is clear evidence that the FIA are entirely biased towards McLaren :p

I've never seen bias at all either, just bad decisions.

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Exactly. :up:

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Originally Posted by jens

In France Lewis didn't give position back to Vettel and was penalized with a drive through (and we were discussing here whether it was right or wrong). Now he gives position back and gets even a harsher penalty... (well, a drive through certainly doesn't last for 25 secs) - already in this there is no logic.

Hamilton is the first driver ever to get penalized despite giving rival's position back. :p :

Rewatch the battle between Massa and Kubica at Fuji last year. Both drivers were forced to take a shortcut several times, but kept fighting and passing each other in almost every corner. There are a lot more cases like that - none of them have been penalized. This is what is especially unlogical in punishing Hamilton. Oh well...

And then we complain there is lack of overtaking in F1. Position defender is allowed to do anything (wave ahead and push the other car off the track), attacker however...

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I can put it no better. Neither can I recall any precedents in other forms of motorsport. If you back off, you're generally OK. Not any more, it seems.