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white/silver roof would be enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
it has already reflective silver roof!Quote:
Originally Posted by drive
I like it, something new and different.
I wonder if this is something that other TGR projects will change as well, like the WEC car.
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Originally Posted by doubled1978
I just read the DirtFish article and it says the WEC car will also be Matt black.
WEC and WRC were launched at the same time:
https://toyotagazooracing.com/pressr.../2023/1212-03/
Finally something new from TGR ! It's not amazing but it's better than the usual same-again.
Now Hyundai needs a new look and the WRC will be refreshed in aesthetics at least.
it is the most awfull "livery" ever...no, wait it is not even a Livery, it is a Black Car with some Stickers....a shame for a Factory entry...and from a fotographer point of view its simply a nightmare
Really like it, better than the last years.
Congrats to Kalle Rovanperä for winning his second drivers' championship title.
I dont know if this will make sense because its a really weird thought, but after seeing the WRC and the WEC cars I kiiinda felt something like: "Well, Toyota is no longer 100% behind these teams anymore. They are moving these programs to Gazoo only" - And I KNOW Gazoo is literally a Toyota's arm. I dont know how to explain my thoughts, especially since english is not my first language, but it kiiiinda felt like Toyota TOYOTA removed one of its foots from WRC and WEC. haha something like that, Idk
Gotta wait and see if the Dakar truck will be black too.
If comes out white/red, then you can say my intuition is NOT 100% wrong haha
Add to that Kalle leaving half of the season and Nasser leaving the Dakar team. They told their reasons but maaaaybe theres more?
There was only G and R letter on the old livery too.
https://dirtfish.com/off-road/dakar/...or-dakar-2024/
I'm aware it's concerning Dakar, but with speculation about the WRC & WEC livery, here the Hilux is also in mat black with the only difference having the red-bull logo on one(?) of the five competing entries.
https://mailchi.mp/tgr-wrt/gr-yaris-...a-homologation
Looking forward to Monte-Carlo.
Just realized it has a roof flag, finally.
Rovanpera will join Latvala in an endurance race in Japan
https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...-24-hours.html
Do we know if theres round where Toyota will only run Elfyn and Taku?
I imagine Hyundai will ALWAYS have 3 cars, but I guess Toyota could run just two cars in some events, eh?
That'd be so lame... 7 Rally1s
I feel like this year will be a test for Toyota's "no team orders" approach.
Ogier and Rovanpera will be driving with road position on the gravel, and ought to beat Evans, who will probably be their main WDC contender.
I'm inclined to think they still won't have orders, they seem pretty determined about that, but we'll see.
Well they didnt pull Ogier back behind Evans in Monte, even when it was clear he wasn't going to win...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
It might have only cost Evans one point but they all mount up by the end of the season. And with a 2 v 1 in favour of Hyundai and their history of 'strategy' then Evans is really up against it.
Kalle and Elfyn leading the Lapland rally ....heheh
Rally2 Yaris P2 and P3 in the overall (Excluding the Rally1 cars)
The Yaris Rally2 seems to be about 2s/km from the Rally1s which is about normal for a leading Rally2 car, and competitive with the Skodas here so it seems they should be more competitive in Sweden than they were in Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiscorpun
It’s much more competitive.
Even Linnamäe is showing some really decent times
Arctic Rally Live here if you want to watch...
https://www.youtube.com/live/qfe45Ce...cgQD8o93RWy7ca
Heikkilä wins in Toyota Rally2 over Asunmaa. First win? Thought maybe engine wouldn´t have enough power. But this proves the opposite. Fast stages, winter tyres. Toyota Rally 2 seems good enough.
And Kalle stopped on last stage
Don’t know the reason atm
It's more complicated than that i think.. might be good on fast stages but less good on slower, twistier stuff. We'll need more rallies to judge i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
well, however when you need 5th gear it´s always power which decides speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Little off-topic, but there will be TGR livery on Formula 2 grid this season. It's driven by 23' Super Formula and SuperGT champion Ritomo Miyata.
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Team principal Jari-Matti Latvala faced harsh criticism re no team orders – now the Finnish boss fires back:
https://rallyjournal.com/team-princi...ss-fires-back/
Haha!
First - I doubt Latvala has any power to give any orders to Ogier or Rovanpera.
He is just there to give interviews and etc.
Another thing is talking about drivers' motivation..
Toyota took the decision that made the series look like a playground by letting two of the best drivers casually drive the rallies they want and just go for the wins + now talking about driver's motivation..? :D
I wouldn't want to be in Evans' boots - on one hand you are the first driver of the team, but on the other hand your personal results don't mean anything to the team as it's okay if they take points of of him..
Team orders don't need to be official nor out in the open. Ogier and Kalle will most likely give their positions to Evans, if they're not about to win the rally. And towards the end of the season, they'll probably give him wins, if they can and if it's needed. Maybe even from their own will.
Toyota confirm suspension upgrades for Safari Rally
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...enya/10592162/
toyota going hard in finland to make more rally2 and MAYBE rally3?
https://rallyjournal.com/details-eme...r-wrc-project/
Do we know when Evans contract ends?
i think they renewed last year with Kalle and Evans but for how long? Kalle was for multi year deal i think
I think they signed him until 2025 or end of 2025, I don't remember, yeah I'm aware there's a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Kalle has a contract until the end of 2026. He's returning for two full seasons from 2025.
To quote the latest Dirtfish podcast..
Is Toyota is crisis ?
Hyundai now lead them by 13 points and Neuville and Tanak are 1st & 2nd (=) in the WDC.
Is their Driver line-up flawed, is the No Team Orders a mistake, or is it all ok and just a couple of bad rallies by Evans?
Why crisis? This is a consequence of two part time top drivers. Only Evans and Katsuta never will give any safe wins.
Toyota isn't in trouble in winning rallies, Toyota is in trouble on Super Sunday. Tanak and Neuville are just the fastest guys on the grid except Rovanpera
Has anyone else noticed Pajari is using the #5 on his Toyota, same as Meeke, hopefully he won’t bin it, fingers crossed.
I'm an old Meeke fan and now a Pajari fan. That... makes my head want to explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli